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housing got decoration hooks :((

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TUXs
07.03.2014 , 10:10 AM | #281
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
They said very plainly that they'll be offering a variety of basic models. So, you can be sure that there'll be tables with vases available if that strikes your fancy.
That's a bigger assumption that "as you see fit".
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07.03.2014 , 10:11 AM | #282
I shall reserve judgement until I can see players using it on the PTS.
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Infernixx
07.03.2014 , 10:12 AM | #283
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They didn't label it as anything other than "you will be able to place items as you see fit"...that's the problem with their silence...they offer such sparse information, that the few tidbits we DO get, are taken as truth.

Yeah, they didn't say a word about hooks prior because they know, deep down, that the hook system is the last possible thing players wanted. UNIQUENESS is what I enjoy about housing...every freaking place will look (nearly) the same, just like your space ship.
You 'read' that as meaning Free Placement, even as they studiously avoided labeling it as anything at all. You 'saw' what you wanted to 'see.' You took it to mean what you wanted it mean even though it's very plain that his statement fits the system as it is, right now.

And if you actually saw the stream, then you'd know that there's a world of customization in the system with each room full of hook placements that you can mix up, change up, and do whatever you want to with.

So, you think that 'every freaking place' will look nearly the same. I bet the opposite. I look at how the players go out of their way to customize how their chars look and I'm betting that there will be 'tons' of people who go out of their way to show off their places that'll be utterly unique. What's better is that they're basing an entire new system on the fact that I'm right and you're wrong, so we'll see which one of us is right about 'that' little presumption of yours.
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07.03.2014 , 10:13 AM | #284
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I've seen that (or something like it) and personally I thought it looked awful and completely broke immersion. It didn't look like a house with decorations, it looked like the result of giving a mad man access to a level editor.
While your statement is essentially true, what you are saying is that you justify limiting other people's creativity on the grounds that it breaks your personal sense of immersion. That seems a bit egocentric and I am not sure that is a very good position to take. After all, no one is forcing you to walk into another person's house.
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Infernixx
07.03.2014 , 10:13 AM | #285
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
That's a bigger assumption that "as you see fit".
That's not an assumption at all. That's a direct quote from the stream. When asked about putting pieces on top of pieces, he said 'no, but we'll have a wide variety of basic items to fit what you need.
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07.03.2014 , 10:15 AM | #286
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
You 'read' that as meaning Free Placement, even as they studiously avoided labeling it as anything at all. You 'saw' what you wanted to 'see.' You took it to mean what you wanted it mean even though it's very plain that his statement fits the system as it is, right now.
I didn't "read" that, the phrase "as you see fit" has a freaking meaning that predates us or Bioware.
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Infernixx
07.03.2014 , 10:18 AM | #287
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I didn't "read" that, the phrase "as you see fit" has a freaking meaning that predates us or Bioware.
And within the placement spots, you can, indeed, place the items as you see fit. You can mix up the placement within the x and y axis and even twist it about by changing the rotation. You can even swap out the hook placement so that you can put the items exactly how/where you want it.

The statement 'fits' the system as it is now. So, 'as you see fit' is not a Free Placement-only related statement, now is it?
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MarsherMeow
07.03.2014 , 10:21 AM | #288
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
And within the placement spots, you can, indeed, place the items as you see fit. You can mix up the placement within the x and y axis and even twist it about by changing the rotation. You can even swap out the hook placement so that you can put the items exactly how/where you want it.

The statement 'fits' the system as it is now. So, 'as you see fit' is not a Free Placement-only related statement, now is it?
That would be true if the person asking the question didn't directly bring up Wildstar. So in the context of comparing it to Wildstar it would mean free placement. Maybe the dev hasn't played Wildstar or seen it's housing but he didn't state that he didn't know how Wildstars housing is.

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07.03.2014 , 10:22 AM | #289
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
And within the placement spots, you can, indeed, place the items as you see fit. You can mix up the placement within the x and y axis and even twist it about by changing the rotation. You can even swap out the hook placement so that you can put the items exactly how/where you want it.

The statement 'fits' the system as it is now. So, 'as you see fit' is not a Free Placement-only related statement, now is it?
No. You can't. You're not even pretending to to do anything other than argue now. As I said, the phrase used means something and has for centuries. You can't redefine it to fit this peg system.
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Infernixx
07.03.2014 , 10:30 AM | #290
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No. You can't. You're not even pretending to to do anything other than argue now. As I said, the phrase used means something and has for centuries. You can't redefine it to fit this peg system.
A standard peg system, you'd be correct.

This, however, is not a standard peg system.
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