housing got decoration hooks :((

Listen, Deewe.....I know you don't like hooks. I don't care for them either. But if you were willing to listen to my opinion, consider this.

This system is different. As you can see from the video, you have MANY more options when it comes to placement. First, they allow more items than usual, second you can rotate and move the items around inside the hook, that is unique.

It may have some restrictions, but it might be worth a try before we make a final judgement. I am going to give it a try before I decide, I would suggest you do the same. You may find you like it.

Or you can just craft it yourself...

Though you could certainly make that contention (though it is disappointing you would resort to hyperbole Andryah) I would not suggest you agree with the coding assessment.

It's wrong. hookless is easier. Certainly messier, certainly not as controlled....hooks is easier to control, perhaps easier if the engine uses hooks to design areas. Otherwise hookless is MUCH easier to code.

Any contention to the contrary is absolutely ludicrous IMO.

Listen, Deewe.....I know you don't like hooks. I don't care for them either. But if you were willing to listen to my opinion, consider this.

This system is different. As you can see from the video, you have MANY more options when it comes to placement. First, they allow more items than usual, second you can rotate and move the items around inside the hook, that is unique.

It may have some restrictions, but it might be worth a try before we make a final judgement. I am going to give it a try before I decide, I would suggest you do the same. You may find you like it.

If you are unable to see that hookless opens the door to localized lag, and other nasty artifacts (due to your PCs processor having to jump through hoops to figure out how to calculate and render everything you have placed off-grid) .... then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Which is fine. Personally, I can't see getting so worked up because you do not have a gridless free form placement available to you.

The single largest benefit to a hook system is that it establishes a quantified grid for placement of objects. That is easily driven by a look-up table....whereas a hookless system will require computational rendering of every object in every view (certainly doable....but why spend processor resources for something that you do not even know if the hook system is any form of visual or aesthetic issue yet).

speaking of which, since they are having those housing twitch streams every week to show us whats in the housing update I wonder, does that mean that this is not going on the PTS for a while? because I was honestly hoping for it to go there this month before I got to go back to school so I could play around with it for a while.

After checking out Dulfy's link, I *really* don't see the problem. I mean, there are hooks pretty much everywhere.

If you are unable to see that hookless opens the door to localized lag, and other nasty artifacts (due to your PCs processor having to jump through hoops to figure out how to calculate and render everything you have placed off-grid) .... then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Which is fine. Personally, I can't see getting so worked up because you do not have a gridless free form placement available to you.

The single largest benefit to a hook system is that it establishes a quantified grid for placement of objects. That is easily driven by a look-up table....whereas a hookless system will require computational rendering of every object in every view (certainly doable....but why spend processor resources for something that you do not even know if the hook system is any form of visual or aesthetic issue yet).

Yes to all you said but and that's of the essence there's a but:

I can't drop anything in the air because I decided it would look nice here.

Then I can't gather items one with the other to make say fish tanks, chandeliers, fireplaces or even a kitchen or cantinas.

Then I don't care about droping a space ship on the roof or a speeder in my garage but diplaying a replica of the same items on shelves as a collection would be nice.

So we are missing scale and tilt features.

Thing is even without trying it we already know it's way more limited than what SWG allowed us 11 years ago and now Rift, Wildstar and so on does.

Plus we already know we have to pay to be able drop multiple version of the same item, I mean seriously?