housing got decoration hooks :((

No, it is not, and any contentions to the contrary are ludicrous. A set of experiments in the 60s is the only basis for this unproven view. One can say that there are situations where myside bias, belief perseverance, illusory correlation or attitude polarization may apply, what one can not say is that any of them are absolutes or "built in to the brain".

One could say that multiple experiments have shown that when a person SEEKS information bias tends to be prevalent, but only in that case. All other contentions are unproven at this point.

What is laughable is your obsession with clinging to an unproven theory to try and control opinions, which is, btw, simply mine.

One you are not going to change. I decide how I feel about anything, period.

I watched the stream and even though it was not like something I had in SWG it looks very good in my opinion. Sure some people would like free placement but there are a lot of individuals I know that would have been leary of having that system as they have never had to decorate before.

This at least makes it easier for people to go in and decorate very easily.

I think it will be something good and we also are able to sit in the chairs and couches which is another plus considering for the most part you can not do that now.

You keep saying that.

I'm curious where you get the information that GSF was not well recieved.
And what specifically was "wrong" with it?

I've seen complaints about it not being PvE. But that wasn't exactly massive complaints.
I've seen complaints about it not being joystick enabled. That was an even smaller group.
And then there's the PvP'ers that don't like it because, you know, it takes skill instead of just buttonmashing

But overall, GSF was well recieved and massively popular when it was launched. It's still popular with a core group of players (about the same number as PvP players on my server anyway) and it seems alot of players still use it to bolster their leveling experience by playing that instead of sidequests or PvP to keep their level on-par with the class quests.

So I don't get where you come from when saying that GSF was a failure.

So I read the preview for the first time. I can't believe how cool it looks. This actually seems...promising. It makes SWTOR in general seem like it has a promising future. The developers are adding creative new elements to the game. Wow. The preview left me feeling optimistic.

After receiving something as cool as this, I don't understand why people would complain about some minor game mechanic like the "hooks"...how spoiled and ungrateful is that?

Two good points I think. I personally think it is easier to use hooks, and certainly being able to sit in chairs is a plus. I would only point out the folly of excitement about something that reaches beyond limited expectations, like sitting in chairs.

AND.. one would be wrong to do so.

I'm an LoTRO veteran, and I still play it from time to time.

Just from looking at the twitch info.. it is very clear that the hooking system in SWTOR is far superior to LoTRO housing in every way.

Why exactly is it that players insist (regardless of like/dislike) to constantly compare one MMOs features to another? And when they do it without even had a chance to do a hands-on... it comes across as particularly silly to me.

That would not be a surprise considering I have not once said, to my knowledge it was a failure. In fact I have indicated the opposite, that it is by no means a failure.....I have, however, said two things over and over again.....

1) It likely did not meet expectations with respect to player retention and sub growth.
2) It was likely not designed to meet the expectations that the majority playerbase had with respect to a space addition.

I have posted my reasons for these views many times over the history of my postings in this forum. You are welcome to check my post history for those sources.

You are also welcome to disagree. What you are not welcome to do is ask me to qualify my statements to your satisfaction....and you should know me enough by now Oddball that that effort will prove fruitless. You should also know that exaggerating a point to try and discredit my point is a silly practice.

I will let the statements stand on their own merits, or lack thereof.

It is Bioware that made that comparison Andryah. I can not speak to the reasoning behind why they chose to do so, but I believe it was in response to a direct question as to whether or not the feature would have hooks.

On a side note....
I find some solace in the assumption that they, at least at some point, attempted a free placement system or perhaps considered it. It looks as though they found it created too many issues.

One note I thought of

While SWG had free form placements we could not place vehicles in our strongholds. We also were unable to have our ships as decorations and we didn't have companions.

So with SWTOR we do have this option and with all that added that is another reason I can see why they decide not to do free form in my opinion.


What is interesting is the jukeboxes they are putting tracks of music in them which could be very nice as well.

And IMO the GTN kiosk and legacy storage is a definite plus....even if I find that I am completely disappointed in the decorating feature for this addition, both of those things give the feature at least some appeal for me personally.