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SWTOR - Playing with Ken and Barbie

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Darth_Wicked
06.22.2014 , 03:30 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
Lol! You can even craft your own orange gear. Guess what? Some people enjoy crafting too. There's noting on the cartel market that you can't get in game by playing other than skins and a lot of those are reworked versions of what's already in game. This is much ado about nothing.

It also ignores the fact that if people want to play for free, income needs to be generated somewhere. We should all be thanking people's love of costume variety for saving the game and funding the new ops and fps that have been added on a regular basis.

Do I like kdy as well as say, Black Talon or the Foundry? Nope, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't serve a gameplay purpose, allowing for a wider range of levelling options and letting friends of different levels and gear to play together. And I do like the new storyline they'be started and the Oricon Ops. Not every player has to like everything. Just because one doesn't care for something personally doesn't mean it isn't valuable content to someone else.
Your definition of "regular basis" is certainly not the same as mine. At this rate, one full year(!!!) will go by without a single new operation, daily area or flashpoint outside the tactical ones.

In other words, no doubt that the CM most likely saved this game from going bonkers but suggesting or openly stating that it helps to both fund the game and deliver content in a timely fashion is... Well, a gross overstatement.

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Sangrar
06.22.2014 , 03:41 PM | #202
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The forum "defenders" would disagree with you entirely and call you out for being hyperbolic.
no we don't, stop trying to act like you can read our minds...
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Reno_Tarshil
06.22.2014 , 03:44 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by RakghoulsRTrolls View Post
Objection: Nothing in my post even remotely counts as a personal attack.


The forum "defenders" would disagree with you entirely and call you out for being hyperbolic.
Quote: Originally Posted by RakghoulsRTrolls View Post
Fact: All of the resources and manpower goes to them while the other teams suffer and the bleeding playerbase reflects that.


Fact: Which makes up a minority while the rest of what is released has to supplement the cash shop in some way.

Since you're always white knighting for EAware and SWTOR I wouldn't expect you to understand why SWTOR lost OVER 2 million subscribers and went F2P in LESS THAN A YEAR. Instead of regularly releasing both PvP and PvE content, EAware is always trying to release reskinned items almost monthly to milk what remains of the diminishing playerbase.
That is a label and a personal attack.
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Darth_Wicked
06.22.2014 , 03:45 PM | #204
Guys, if you stop feeding him, he will eventually go away.

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errant_knight
06.22.2014 , 03:50 PM | #205
Content you don't personally want to do is not the same thing as no content. Galactic Starfighter was massive new content and a lot of people really enjoy it. If one doesn't, that doesn't make it cease to exist. Likewise, the tactical fps are new content even if one prefers regular ones. That's not everyone, however. There are always people queuing for the tactical fps. They're trying to provide content for a wide range of people, not just hardcore raiders and that's not a bad thing. And this is coming from someone who spends most of their time in ops. It's not just about my preferred content, or about anyone else's.

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Darth_Wicked
06.22.2014 , 03:59 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
Content you don't personally want to do is not the same thing as no content. Galactic Starfighter was massive new content and a lot of people really enjoy it. If one doesn't, that doesn't make it cease to exist. Likewise, the tactical fps are new content even if one prefers regular ones. That's not everyone, however. There are always people queuing for the tactical fps. They're trying to provide content for a wide range of people, not just hardcore raiders and that's not a bad thing. And this is coming from someone who spends most of their time in ops. It's not just about my preferred content, or about anyone else's.
You're confused or perhaps you're confusing me with those who actually don't play this game and spend all their time seeking a confrontation in these forums.

First, I never said that Galactic Starfighter wasn't content. If I did, I do suggest you tell me where.

Second, you failed to address that which I stated earlier, if only you felt the need to reaffirm it, namely the release of tactical flashpoints ONLY.

The issue here is not the release of the tactical flashpoints but rather the fact that Bioware chose, for some inane reason, to do the exact opposite of what they did when they first went with that route. CZ-198 flashpoints offered both tactical and loly trinity versions of the same content... Why alter the deal mid-way and backtrack on that which was expected by most?

Also, let us do a comparison...

By June 2012, we had already gotten Karagga's Palace, Explosive Conflict, Kaon Under Siege, Lost Island, Black Hole, among some other PvP stuff I'm probably unaware.

By June 2013, we had gotten Makeb, Scum & Villainy and by August, the CZ-198 daily area, plus two tactical and holy trinity flashpoints.

By June 2014... We got two tactical flashpoints and I won't count GSF seeing that it was first released in late(!!!) 2013. What else exactly?

Again, your definition may not be the same as mine but don't even try to imply or state that this game has been anything else other than LACKLUST compared to 2012 and 2013.

The Cartel Market made many things possible but it doesn't seem to have any role in having Bioware releasing stuff in a timely fashion.

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Lord_of_Mu
06.22.2014 , 04:01 PM | #207
I always thought it was a little strange that Space Madonna's "Vogue" was always playing every time I left my ship. Now I know, I'm just fabulous in the field.

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errant_knight
06.22.2014 , 04:10 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
You're confused or perhaps you're confusing me with those who actually don't play this game and spent all their time seeking a confrontation in these forums.

First, I never said that Galactic Starfighter wasn't content. If I did, I do suggest you tell me where.

Second, you failed to address that which I stated earlier, if only you felt the need to reaffirm it, namely the release of tactical flashpoints ONLY.

The issue here is not the release of the tactical flashpoints but rather the fact that Bioware chose, for some inane reason, to do the exact opposite of what they did when they first went for that route. CZ-198 flashpoints offered both tactical and loly trinity versions of the same content... Why alter the deal mid-way and backtrack on that which was expected by most?

Also, let us do a comparison...

By June 2012, we had already gotten Karagga's Palace, Explosive Conflict, Kaon Under Siege, Lost Island, Black Hole, among some other PvP stuff I'm probably unaware.

By June 2013, we had gotten Makeb, Scum & Villainy and by August, the CZ-198 daily area, plus two tactical and holy trinity flashpoints.

By June 2014... We got two tactical flashpoints and I won't count GSF seeing that it was first released in late(!!!) 2013. What else exactly?

Again, your definition may not be the same as mine but don't even try to imply or state that this game has been anything else other than LACKLUST compared to 2012 and 2013.

The Cartel Market made many things possible but it doesn't seem to have any role in having Bioware releasing stuff in a timely fashion.
Hmm, ok, if you'd put it like that in the beginning instead of being so attack dog about it, I might have been with you sooner. You have a way of making people not want to agree with you. But yeah. I see your point. Still, given the resources that GSF and the upcoming strongholds (which were supposed to be released earlier) will have taken, I'm not sure they had the resources to do otherwise, given how understaffed they are. As far as I know, they never did hire back any of the people who were laid off and I'm not sure EA would let them. They're not letting them produce class content, after all, even with the obvious increase in revenue and I don't believe for a minute that's what Bioware actually wants.

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Darth_Wicked
06.22.2014 , 04:15 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
Hmm, ok, if you'd put it like that in the beginning instead of being so attack dog about it, I might have been with you sooner. You have a way of making people not want to agree with you. But yeah. I see your point. Still, given the resources that GSF and the upcoming strongholds (which were supposed to be released earlier) will have taken, I'm not sure they had the resources to do otherwise, given how understaffed they are. As far as I know, they never did hire back any of the people who were laid off and I'm not sure EA would let them. They're not letting them produce class content, after all, even with the obvious increase in revenue and I don't believe for a minute that's what Bioware actually wants.
"Understaffed" is an understatement.

There's a reason some stuff pertaining GSF was put on hold indefinitely(!!!) according to Eric, since they felt the need to have most(?) of their manpower working on the upcoming two expansions.

Regardless, at this point, I have no idea what Bioware actually wants seeing that they really don't share their plans in advance and I don't know the people who work there nowadays, bar some notable exceptions.

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TalantM
06.22.2014 , 04:39 PM | #210
Isn't it EA austin now and not bioware? Would that not explain............................everything?