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Why the hate on Revan


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Harry_Surik
06.13.2014 , 07:54 AM | #21
Well like I said its only my opinion I for one liked Revan and even the exile I think they would have made for an interesting team.
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NightEngine
06.13.2014 , 07:56 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
Unless you have a source for that, your guess is as good as anyone else.
It's blatantly obvious. He goes on and on in a specific way about how he can't be defeated*, then when he explodes into what is clearly energy, his body disappears, and he talks about being 'nothing'. He's gone.

Teleportation was an extremely rare Force ability that Revan never before exhibited and was never mentioned among his feats. I'm willing to leave room for the fact that did, indeed, Force teleport.

That doesn't change the fact I find it highly unlikely and if he did he's even more of a Mary Sue.

* There are many instances where Jedi talk about becoming one with the Force and use language similar to Revan's.
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QuiDonJorn
06.13.2014 , 08:06 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by DeltaBos View Post
I don't get why, despite being repeatedly called the most powerful force-user of his time, people hate on Revan so much. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't thrilled he got nerfed in SWTOR and downsized in his novel, but he's repeatedly referred to as some all-powerful Jedi. He's practically the Chuck Norris of the old republic era and I don't get why people span hate about him.
Hate Revan? I don't hate Revan. I wouldn't waste my time pouring real emotion into a completely fictional character in a completely fictional universe.
Naw, I'll tell you what I do hate though. Revan Fanboys.
The kind of people that make entire threads about how a fictional character is an all-powerful God and get really upset that his creators didn't write him to be as such. (it's thier character, deal with it).
The kind of people that make threads to ask why other people aren't worshipping the fictional ground that this fictional character fictionally walks on like they do.

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Zoom_VI
06.13.2014 , 08:13 AM | #24
I have no idea why people think Revan is some sort of "chuck Norris" when pretty much every single SW videogame has a main protagionist that is pretty much a "Chuck Norris" Revan, Meetra, Kyle Katarn, Starkiller, Every single one of the TOR classes. (I mean seriously the crap you do just doing missions is crazy, I'm a non-sensitive trooper that's going to 1v4 a bunch a sith lords..)
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Darth_Wicked
06.13.2014 , 08:13 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by NightEngine View Post
It's blatantly obvious. (...)
For you perhaps. I'll ignore the rest, since it's highly subjective to say the least, not to mention open to interpretation.

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NightEngine
06.13.2014 , 08:23 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
For you perhaps. I'll ignore the rest, since it's highly subjective to say the least, not to mention open to interpretation.
It's based on Star Wars canon and only subjective if you subscribe to the idea that Revan might be even more poorly written than he already is. If he Force teleported than he has pulled an extremely powerful and rare ability out of his rear all of a sudden. Nevermind that simply becoming one with the Force is quite the feat to begin with and, typically, only devout light siders have been able to do so predictably.

There's nothing subjective about this. There's a good chance he's dead, a mediocre chance he's become one with the Force, and a slim chance he teleported away.
"My craft is death."
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Darth_Wicked
06.13.2014 , 08:25 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by NightEngine View Post
It's based on Star Wars canon and only subjective if you subscribe to the idea that Revan might be even more poorly written than he already is. If he Force teleported than he has pulled an extremely powerful and rare ability out of his rear all of a sudden. Nevermind that simply becoming one with the Force is quite the feat to begin with and, typically, only devout light siders have been able to do so predictably.

There's nothing subjective about this. There's a good chance he's dead, a mediocre chance he's become one with the Force, and a slim chance he teleported away.
Dude does something that goes against your nifty theory = Poorly written character overall

Absolutely priceless statement right there.

Regardless, I'll say it again, in case you wear an eye-patch: Unless you have official confirmation from Bioware that he is indeed dead, your guess is as good as anyone else.

Just deal with it.

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ImmortalLowlife
06.13.2014 , 08:32 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhalius View Post
....I reject any supposed canon regarding Revan that doesnt allign with my Revan. It wasnt even my first playthrough that I saw as Revan, but my second.. Hence to me, the real Revan was a bald asian with a small black beard, and was dark side. Though I do picture him as more intelligent than the daft dialogue options of KOTOR allowed.
Lol funny....my Revan was a Light side black guy with a small afro.

Personally tho, I have no problem with Revan being in swtor. My biggest issue was his portrayal in that pos book. Cause there's no way in hell a "military tactical genius" would think
Spoiler
Minimum.....Revan (as I see him) would have taken HK-47.
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NightEngine
06.13.2014 , 08:36 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
Dude does something that goes against your nifty theory = Poorly written character overall

Absolutely priceless statement right there.

Regardless, I'll say it again, in case you wear an eye-patch: Unless you have official confirmation from Bioware that he is indeed dead, your guess is as good as anyone else.

Just deal with it.
I never made that statement, I advise you stop reading between the lines when there's nothing there to begin with. That aside, Revan is patently poorly written as a character overall. This isn't anyone's fault, though, it's simply a circumstance of him being the MC in a video game. My 'nifty theory' has nothing to do with it.

My 'nifty theory' is very well considered and based on the notion - perish the thought - that Bioware doesn't completely suck at storytelling. It's the most likely of the three possible outcomes unless Bioware completely drops the ball and says, 'oh, he uh, was never actually there!' or something equally lazy.

So tell me what evidence the next best guess might be based on? And then we'll see how the merits of the arguments stack up. Deciding not to come to a conclusion stifles meaningful discourse concerning a topic.

It's okay to present something you think is true and to be forced to rethink it later so long as you consider all the possibilities fairly. You don't have to wait for an authority to hold your hand.
"My craft is death."
Darth Rubric, Sith Marauder

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Joesixxpack
06.13.2014 , 08:39 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalLowlife View Post
Lol funny....my Revan was a Light side black guy with a small afro.

Personally tho, I have no problem with Revan being in swtor. My biggest issue was his portrayal in that pos book. Cause there's no way in hell a "military tactical genius" would think
Spoiler
Minimum.....Revan (as I see him) would have taken HK-47.
Throughout much of that book I was thinking "What the hell is this crap?"

and
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