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Opt-out of DOUBLE XP


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LeglessChair
06.12.2014 , 12:10 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The point of double xp is to get more people to log into the game during specific time periods. Sometimes it coincides with the release of new MMO's or expansions to MMO's. Sometimes it coincides with the time period for which EA intends to count attendance for reporting.

But that's the goal - get more people to log in during that timeframe.

And that's exactly what it accomplishes.
Making it optional will only increase its effectiveness (if what you are saying about the purpose is even true).

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ImmortalLowlife
06.12.2014 , 12:19 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by James_four View Post
....Apparently those that make the request to bow out of double xp are ruining swtor for everyone else and should have their posts deleted and be banned in some way from swtor or at least punished.

It is just a simple request that will not ruin the game for everyone else despite objections to the contrary.
I COMPLETELY understand this statement.....and with this statement in mind I'd like to ask the devs.....

"When y'all add this check box to opt out of 2XP, can you ADD JOYSTICK/CONTROLLER SUPPORT FOR GSF?
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Thoronmir
06.12.2014 , 12:26 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by LeglessChair View Post
People appreciate choice, and 2xp alsmo hurts RP because people end up with a poor understanding of the lore. As you mentioned it should be for people who want it, and so it should be OPT-IN instead of OPT-OUT.
Speaking as someone whose primary focus in any MMO is RP, this makes no sense to me. DXP causes players to "end up with a poor understanding of the lore"? That must be because they're skipping content? But if a player's emphasis is RP, why would they care if a mission is grey to them? Just do it over-leveled, learn the lore (what little lore you actually learn from side missions), and move on.

I don't care if EA adds a toggle. I believe there are valid reasons why DXP may disrupt how someone wants to play. But to put forth "bad RP" as a justification is simply ill-considered. If this wasn't the internet and, hence, everything said is a lie, I'd ask for actual testimonials from RPers who feel their knowledge of SW lore has been held back due to DXP.

If I met an RPer who lacked a decent understanding of the lore, I would not advise them to "Go do more side missions you skipped." I'd likely just refer them to the Wiki. But I prefer RP that is independent of what happens in the missions. Otherwise, my status as the first and only Barsen'thor in a thousand years seems a little muted (my point being that it's a poor idea to RP in-game events since, ya know, we all can't have been the guy who killed the guy or was so-and-so's "last apprentice").

TL;DR: There are valid reasons to request a DXP toggle. RP is not one of them.

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LeglessChair
06.12.2014 , 12:30 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
Speaking as someone whose primary focus in any MMO is RP, this makes no sense to me. DXP causes players to "end up with a poor understanding of the lore"? That must be because they're skipping content? But if a player's emphasis is RP, why would they care if a mission is grey to them? Just do it over-leveled, learn the lore (what little lore you actually learn from side missions), and move on.

I don't care if EA adds a toggle. I believe there are valid reasons why DXP may disrupt how someone wants to play. But to put forth "bad RP" as a justification is simply ill-considered. If this wasn't the internet and, hence, everything said is a lie, I'd ask for actual testimonials from RPers who feel their knowledge of SW lore has been held back due to DXP.

If I met an RPer who lacked a decent understanding of the lore, I would not adìvise them to "Go do more side missions you skipped." I'd likely just refer them to the Wiki. But I prefer RP that is independent of what happens in the missions. Otherwise, my status as the first and only Barsen'thor in a thousand years seems a little muted (my point being that it's a poor idea to RP in-game events since, ya know, we all can't have been the guy who killed the guy or was so-and-so's "last apprentice").

TL;DR: There are valid reasons to request a DXP toggle. RP is not one of them.
I doubt its effectiveness at turning people ( who may not have tried rp) into skilled RP ers. Asmentioned previously, immersion is key.

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Thoronmir
06.12.2014 , 12:32 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by LeglessChair View Post
I doubt its effectiveness at turning people into skilled RP ers.
In my 35 years experience RPing, people turn into skilled RPers by RPing (preferably with skilled RPers). Not by completing missions. I doubt DXP has any effect whatsoever on developing a player's RP skills.

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DarthTHC
06.12.2014 , 12:33 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by LeglessChair View Post
Making it optional will only increase its effectiveness (if what you are saying about the purpose is even true).
Indeed. They might get another 7 whole people to log in.

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Thoronmir
06.12.2014 , 12:42 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Indeed. They might get another 7 whole people to log in.
As I understand it, you oppose the addition of a toggle because it would redirect time and resources the developers might use on something else? Because I don't care about that. I'm sure the developers spend lots of time on lots of things in which I have no interest.

I likely would never opt out of DXP (too many alts to push through their stories while avoiding as many side missions as possible). But I see no reason why those who want the toggle (even if you're right and it's just seven players) shouldn't let their preference be known. If it turns out that too few players claim to want the toggle, I imagine the suggestion will wither and die without any developer time being diverted. If enough players want the toggle, then it seems worth the developers' time.

We each have our pet projects. I bang the drum for appearance tabs. I don't know if I'm in the majority or minority on the issue. But it doesn't matter. I want them and will keep asking for them. Even if getting tabs risks diverting precious developer time away from more popular aspects of the game.

TL;DR: What's the harm in people asking for what they want?

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DarthTHC
06.12.2014 , 01:06 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
As I understand it, you oppose the addition of a toggle because it would redirect time and resources the developers might use on something else? Because I don't care about that. I'm sure the developers spend lots of time on lots of things in which I have no interest.

I likely would never opt out of DXP (too many alts to push through their stories while avoiding as many side missions as possible). But I see no reason why those who want the toggle (even if you're right and it's just seven players) shouldn't let their preference be known. If it turns out that too few players claim to want the toggle, I imagine the suggestion will wither and die without any developer time being diverted. If enough players want the toggle, then it seems worth the developers' time.

We each have our pet projects. I bang the drum for appearance tabs. I don't know if I'm in the majority or minority on the issue. But it doesn't matter. I want them and will keep asking for them. Even if getting tabs risks diverting precious developer time away from more popular aspects of the game.

TL;DR: What's the harm in people asking for what they want?
I oppose the addition of the feature because there are very simple, very reasonable things the players can to (that does not include logging out) to completely solve the problem for themselves.

This is not true of other things the developers may work on, from creating new content to new features like the appearance tab you mentioned.

The harm is in wasting developer resources to solve problems that aren't really problems, because the players could easily solve the "problems" for themselves.

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AlienEyeTX
06.12.2014 , 01:17 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
TL;DR: What's the harm in people asking for what they want?
No harm in asking. That's why they have a Suggestion Box. Just don't get mad if your suggestion is never implemented.
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Thoronmir
06.12.2014 , 01:17 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The harm is in wasting developer resources to solve problems that aren't really problems, because the players could easily solve the "problems" for themselves.
That harm would result from the developers actually doing it. I still see no harm in people asking for the change. Call it a QoL issue if you like. Not necessary, but would be nice (for those who want to opt out).

You could say the same thing about my pet project: Appearance Tabs. I can already "solve" the problem myself by paying to swap out mods over and over and over again ... every time I change an outfit. But Appearance Tabs would be really nice ... for me. And I don't care if getting them "wastes" developer resources.

Hey, I don't want or need a DXP toggle. But I have no problem with players asking for one (unless they base their position on nonsense ... like "bad RP").