Strategy to the Casino Event! Don't lose your money!

False. Randomized events have intrinsic distributions over sufficiently large samples.

This is basic probability/statistics.

If you roll a die 60 times, you'll roll a 6 about 10 times.
If you flip a coin 100 times, it'll land on heads about 50 times.
If a hit an RNG (range: 0 <= float < 1) 20 times, the value will be between 0 and 0.4 about 8 times.

Apply basic probability: A smuggler token has 1-chance-in-6.5 (give or take), or 16% chance to generate a KP token. The random formula behind that would be: if (rand() <= 0.16) win();

Random events. Intrinsic distribution. Expected average results over significant sample set.

Nope. This would be a perception failure based on a misunderstanding of probability. (It is very, very, very likely that) The odds are the same whether you have 1 KP or 40 KP. However, you would be twice as likely to "win" with 8 KP than you would with 4 KP... because you're going to try twice as many times.

Otherwise, you're suggesting that Bioware coded up their slot machines to inspect your inventory, count up the number of KP, then skew the RNG based on the count. Furthermore, it would skew it in favor of people winning more stuff. (If more KP means better odds, then more attempts compounded by better odds means drastically more stuff) That's pretty much the opposite of how gambling is normally set up.

there is a 5 second cooldown between the same slot machine being used, there is a 1.5 second GCD on using ANY slot machine, i dont care HOW fast you click it. it is still a cooldown into the RNG.

problem here is op doesnt understand what RANDOM means vs a long term average.

in case op missed my previous rant

Random = a random event has any number of unpredictable outcomes based on % chance of something occuring, just becuse something is more likely to occur does not mean it is not random

average = the # occurrence of an event out of 'n' number of random events. This becomes the x/n = % equation
if you have multiple possible events, x(i) the sum of %x(i) must sum to 100% i.e 10% chance for x1, 50% chance x2 and 40% chance for x3 X1 + x2 + x3 = 100%

With the RNG on my toons, that percentage is about 0.0001% with the buff. Same percentage each time you roll, same as RE stuff, same each and every time.

Still, i've gained certs from the smug slots, which have gained me legacy weapons for my toons. Not a complete and utter waste of time, just wish Bioware would bother to add legacy off-hand weapons (because yet again they haven't bothered.... ).

They are going to be part of the next Gree event

guild member last night was spouting it as a 'game of skill" clicking it at a certain place made it more likely to "win" so he hit it once 'where he wanted" and won 'hit it once where i didn't" and lost so point proven -.-

I rolled my eyes and went yup you're right they either coded a very complex mechanic where they registered where the inner circle was in relation to the outer circle when you clicked (ignoring the fact that each time you clicked it 'reset the animation") or they used current RNG to implement a simple "when clicked, get RNG and check value against range" mechanic.

I know what route I would go as a developer to simplify my life and make it less likely to exploit. very hard to exploit a RNG, even pseudo-RNG

A couple notes here:

1) Even if we assume Bioware is using a "default" PRNG, the most likely implementation is the Mersenne Twister. The MT is still sufficiently random from one number to the next that a user would be unlikely to be able to either tell the current state of the PRNG, or exploit some manner of periodicity based on the current PRNG state. It's more likely that Bioware is actually using a faster and slightly better PRNG than the MT.

2) The PRNG lives on the server. Even if the user clicks fast, the server may generate 20 or 2000 PRNGs between clicks. The user has no idea how many. It's Nar Shaddaa. Every time any user on the server hits a mob, at least one PRNG is generated. A user at a slot machine cannot control or even know how many other PRNGs are being generated over a segment of time. There is virtually no chance that "fast clicking" will produce numbers that exhibit any sort of predictable periodicity or serial-similarity, based entirely on the fact that the user cant even know how many numbers are generated between the two they saw.

3) Compounding Item 1 and 2: A server-based PRNG can be easily seeded with or outright tied to an actual crypto-strength randomized pool. Many default implementations of PRNGs now use OS-based entropy pools. They still might not be crypto-strength, but we're still far, far beyond the "click faster to exploit the PRNG" point.

It doesn't change, I see what you're saying, however the given percentages are on Reddit, where they were "swtor mined" and those percentages are final, I'm basing my post on that particularly. Now if your basing your percentage or "dice" on those, I can see what your saying. However it confuses me on how you base this casino on an example of rolling a dice for example, the casino options do not have a limited 6 sides, but I can see if you determine EVERY possible outcome you can determine on each chance ( hard to explain) I can see that..

if you take off all your armor and enhancements the game thinks your a homeless space bum and will give out rancor's much more frequently

DOHboy and Malastare
You guys are making my head hurt.

Again, the percentages that was data mined out of the patch are what should base this on. 3 out of 5 people recieved a total of 9 KP tokens out of 50 smugglers, the other two scored 8. I base my theory on the average outcomes. I'm saying that whatever these percentages are that Bioware implemented are chance-based. For example : You have 9 KP tokens, you put one in, say you get it back. Your chances to win have just increased. To save money, and maybe increase the speed of the process, you are better off to have a larger amount of KP tokens then lesser. I just urge you to try my theory, go buy 50 smuggler tokens exactly then tap it until you run out, how fast you do it doesn't matter.