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Opt-out of DOUBLE XP


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Nothematic
05.03.2014 , 07:38 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by PlasmaJohn View Post
Obviously it's a bit more complicated than what you posted (there's a rested xp exclusion), but it's not rocket science.

Extending your example...
Code:
if (system.doubleXP == true && character.enableBonusXP == true){
      xPGained = XP * 2;
}
Code complexity aside, options need to be added to the preferences and the new flag or flags have to be added to the character record. Sure, it's something that should get a rigorous regression testing or at least a good soaking on the PTS.

With my engineer hat on I'd argue for distinct flags for DoubleXP, Guild XP and rested XP. As a designer I'd agonize over throwing too many options at the player. Both sides would agree that it would be silly to add an exclusion for consumable boosts since those are a definite opt-in.
Obviously I didn't want to complicate things too much to get my point accross, but I agree your line of thinking is probably correct. From a programming practice point of view it's not great foresight, but I imagine when they coded the original XP gain system they weren't even considering 2x XP being a possibility. While it is possible they could go back retrospectively and make it an on character basis, it'd be a resource hog and knowing this engine would create a small performance hit for the extra calculations.
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Hezip
05.03.2014 , 01:17 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoshkar View Post
I would be happy with a way to lock your level. It is in some other games I have played, and I LOVED IT!!! Who does it hurt? No one. Who does it make happy? A lot of us
It would hurt PvP'ers
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DarthTHC
05.05.2014 , 08:58 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by HandOfKane View Post
Funny, since the same logic could apply to you. Don't want to do planetary quests? Then just skip everything but the class stories. Thus, the people who insists that everyone has to go though 2xp can also solve their problems with no effort. Or does that logic only apply to people who agree with you?
What problem are you suggesting that I have?

BioWare put a feature into the game. People complained about that feature and asked for silly stuff... when they could solve the problem easily and for themselves.

Perhaps the problem that I have is my complete lack of empathy for people who want others to solve their problems instead of taking the simplest action to solve them for themselves?

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Andryah
05.05.2014 , 09:13 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Perhaps the problem that I have is my complete lack of empathy for people who want others to solve their problems instead of taking the simplest action to solve them for themselves?
/Two-thumbs-up

It's a common theme, and not just in this gaming forum.. but all gaming forums.

The amount of silly threads that boil down to lazy people who want someone else (usually the devs) to design and maintain the game to their personal needs is mind boggling sometimes.

Personally, I accept that every MMO has it's own set of constraint variables in game play, and that as a player.... constraint mechanics are there to stimulate the player out of mindlessness. In almost all cases, they are easily managed by the player if the player is capable of putting two brain cells together to form a coherent assessment of how to get their needs met (other then pooping their pants and crying up the forum about needing their pants changed for them ).

Opting out of double XP is not a game breaking challenge here. And it's actually only a challenge for a non-capped character. Here.. let me demonstrate:

1) double XP goes live for the weekend
2) I have a particular character that, for personal choices, I wish to avoid double XP earns. So much so that I also never park the character anywhere to earn rested XP after log out.
3) I don't want the double XP on that character.... so...... wait for it... wait for it.... I play a different character(s) during double XP...... like any of my capped characters, or characters I actually want to level as fast as possible.

Rocket Science this is not. Any player with any common sense can work out how to mitigate the double XP for a weekend every once in a while... so yeah.. no empathy from me either.
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DOHboy
05.05.2014 , 09:17 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
/Two-thumbs-up

It's a common theme, and not just in this gaming forum.. but all gaming forums.

The amount of silly threads that boil down to lazy people who want someone else (usually the devs) to design and maintain the game to their personal needs is mind boggling sometimes.

Personally, I accept that every MMO has it's own set of constraint variables in game play, and that as a player.... constraint mechanics are there to stimulate the player out of mindlessness. In almost all cases, they are easily managed by the player if the player is capable of putting two brain cells together to form a coherent assessment of how to get their needs met (other then pooping their pants and crying up the forum about needing their pants changed for them ).
can we go with society in general? Forums just happen to be a sample of society and often a reflection of current culture.

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James_four
06.09.2014 , 08:57 PM | #86
I hope swtor won't even consider letting someone level at the 100% xp rate while the rest of us enjoy double xp. I think that if a few people want to opt out of double xp during double xp events it just ruins the game for everyone else and then where would we be? The idea that someone would not want to participate in double xp while the rest of us are enjoying it is just disturbing.

If someone wants to earn xp at a slower pace while we are earning xp at twice the normal pace (dare I hope for 3xp or even 4xp in the future?) he is hurting himself and everyone else and therefore should not be allowed to opt out.

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horrorfaneightys
06.09.2014 , 11:19 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by scratcha View Post
I wager that old age has hastened in me a thickening of the skull and that I'm often insensitive to nuance, but I think he was being cynical. However, as always, I could be wrong.
I agree with this assessment.

God, I really hope they were being cynical.
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DeltaBos
06.09.2014 , 11:44 PM | #88
I'm all for this. Going to Taris at lvl 22 takes all the fun out of the game. Then I have to skip planetary quests and it's just like why bother?
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James_four
06.10.2014 , 12:31 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by James_four View Post
I hope swtor won't even consider letting someone level at the 100% xp rate while the rest of us enjoy double xp. I think that if a few people want to opt out of double xp during double xp events it just ruins the game for everyone else and then where would we be? The idea that someone would not want to participate in double xp while the rest of us are enjoying it is just disturbing.

If someone wants to earn xp at a slower pace while we are earning xp at twice the normal pace (dare I hope for 3xp or even 4xp in the future?) he is hurting himself and everyone else and therefore should not be allowed to opt out.
Yes, I was being cynical. I'm trying a new approach. Seriously, players with the ability to opt out of double xp are seen as the enemy of swtor and attacked vehemently.

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DarthTHC
06.10.2014 , 09:04 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by DeltaBos View Post
I'm all for this. Going to Taris at lvl 22 takes all the fun out of the game. Then I have to skip planetary quests and it's just like why bother?
You have to skip planetary quests. Forced to. The game gives you no other option.

Really? When did they put that feature into the game?

Or is it that you choose to skip planetary quests?

Since I already know the answer to that question, I'll ask the logical follow-up. Why do you choose to skip planetary quests?