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psandak
06.08.2014 , 09:26 AM | #41
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By which time it's too late to influence their design choices and we find they've half-arsed it like the dye system?

You don't know much about MMO design do you...it's already too late. The planning and design stages are LONG since over. That's unless you want yet another delay/

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My thoughts? We've had a form of housing since launch. They could have added some customization options to our ships, and been done with it, and spent some of that money on new Ops or FPs. The only thing that even remotely interests me about the housing expansion is Legacy Storage, and they could have added that to the ships and been good.

So, in perspective with the premise of this thread, as far as I'm concerned they did it wrong anyway. If I wanted to play Suzy Homemaker, I'd play the Sims.
The commonly accepted reason why that did not happen is the fact that a LOT of the story takes place on one's ship and having to modify the cut scene system to adjust to those modifiers would be nigh impossible. They cannot even get unified armor colors on companions to stick in story cut scenes (sometimes they work sometimes they don't).
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Foambreaker
06.08.2014 , 09:26 AM | #42
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Have you actually read the stronghold page?
http://www.swtor.com/galactic-strongholds

It mentions both crafting for your stronghold, as well as customizing it.
Cartel Coins and the stuff you buy is unlocks, that go in one certain spot.

Just like you "customized" your ship when you unlock the bank, or the vendor.

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branmakmuffin
06.08.2014 , 09:32 AM | #43
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These houses are all pre-decorated and they look just like any other public place and everyone's house will look the same, not that it will matter because they will all be virtual, it won't be like UO where you can go to a persons house.
I'm pretty sure UO's housing is virtual, too.

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Cyberwoman
06.08.2014 , 10:03 AM | #44
It would be nice if the housing is fully customizable, and for all we know it could be. The videos have been teasers more then anything, and frankly we have no idea either way how it is going to work. I suspect we will know a little more closer to the release date. The fact that GS has been delayed is perhaps a positive indication that they are listening to player demands.

Anyway, I think we should just wait and see. You never know, BW may surprise us all!
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horrorfaneightys
06.08.2014 , 10:13 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
I'm pretty sure UO's housing is virtual, too.
Ok that made me laugh.

What I'm looking forward to most is legacy storage. I would like to consolidate all my cargo holds, and not have to switch from one character to the other constantly. Also interested in guild ships, having recently joined a couple. Would be nice to meet my fellow members perhaps.
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Lyshar
06.08.2014 , 10:14 AM | #46
I expect they won't do it "right". I don't care really, I'll check it out, would be fun if they did it right according to some people that are getting their hopes way too far up.

During development they said ships would be our homes, they also showed some customization ideas, changing color schemes and such. That got scrapped, and might only have been an idea with concept art.
I don't even think we get to paint the walls in this housing, we'll be lucky if we get to choose seating arrangements.

What I have seen from what they have been willing to show us it'll be really simple housing. Predetermined nodes to place items on from a list based of your achievements/collections. That's all they've shown us "place big statues" "place pets" "show it off to your friends".

I feel people are expecting that they can design dining rooms, dance halls, bedrooms, etc. Don't you think they'd show those features off if you could? You can hope, and maybe that's what it'll be... Dream on if you expect more, you might get really lucky and have your dreams come true.

Just a mini-game of "place random crap no one really cares about, not even you most likely". Hope someone has fun placing things in a way that might impress their friends with the limited options we'll likely have.

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06.08.2014 , 10:24 AM | #47
Some well known opponents to a housing system....some of those folks pretty vocal back in the day, "this isnt SWG 2.0, housing will never happen, if you don't like it leave" sort of folks, will certainly continue to be rather bitter about being proven wrong.

I expect they will remain rather critical of the feature since it made their prior comments and protestations look rather foolish.

This is why I tell folks to never say never, and feel free to suggest anything they would like to see...anything is possible.

That said, not every person that stands against this feature campaigned against those that desired it back in the day, and should not be lumped in with those folks IMO. Some folks just simply hate the idea of "wasting resources", as they see it, on a feature they have little to no interest in.

I think, however, all of us get that some times. I know I was rather disappointed with GS and feel those resources were wasted.

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Infernixx
06.08.2014 , 10:35 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
Some well known opponents to a housing system....some of those folks pretty vocal back in the day, "this isnt SWG 2.0, housing will never happen, if you don't like it leave" sort of folks, will certainly continue to be rather bitter about being proven wrong.

I expect they will remain rather critical of the feature since it made their prior comments and protestations look rather foolish.

This is why I tell folks to never say never, and feel free to suggest anything they would like to see...anything is possible.

That said, not every person that stands against this feature campaigned against those that desired it back in the day, and should not be lumped in with those folks IMO. Some folks just simply hate the idea of "wasting resources", as they see it, on a feature they have little to no interest in.

I think, however, all of us get that some times. I know I was rather disappointed with GS and feel those resources were wasted.
I was an opponent of Housing when it was constantly suggested/demanded. I felt like it wasn't a proper avenue for resources.

That said, once the decision was made to make Housing a thing, I accepted it and decided to embrace the idea. And now, I have little reason to be upset with it.

As for how Housing will work, I'll be patient and wait for them to release info in regards to how it works before I freak out. Because right now, all we have is speculation, assumption, bias and prejudice.
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HoloTweed
06.08.2014 , 10:40 AM | #49
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no gripe, just curious.. 2 months out and still little known.
As it should be.

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06.08.2014 , 10:45 AM | #50
I'm quite looking forward to the GS, but I'm doing so with few expectations. I spend little time as possible in fleet because of the minor irritants -- things other players do -- that culminate in disrupting my immersion and concentration when I'm engaging in marketplace speculation and crafting. No gripe here really, it's just me, my old age, and increasing intolerance for immaturity and actions that border on griefing.

Avoiding fleet, I do everything I can on my ship, and I have all the applicable unlocks. But to me the ships are a bit dismal; so, housing with its promise of legacy storage appeals mightily to me. Will I spend heavily on décor, probably not, but I will invest in any and all conveniences that help me avoid the fleet.

Is player housing a game changer for me? Decidedly NOT, it's a cosmetic enhancement at best. Given the choice between additional solo content, playable classes and companions, or new explorable planets, GS comes in way down on my wish list, but I'll be infinitely happy to take whatever I can get.