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AlienEyeTX
06.04.2014 , 01:51 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Oh that's just ******** and you know it.

If you say "People who drive audis --- are jerks" it is perfectly clear that you don't mean SOME, MOST, MANY or FEW. If you say that, you are saying "everyone who drives an audi --- is a jerk".
And that would be a fact, not an opinion.
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Darth_Wicked
06.04.2014 , 01:55 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
And that would be a fact, not an opinion.
Pffffffff... It's called "certainty" or "certitude" for example; Get it right for once.

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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:56 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
I understand the point you're trying to make.

But I notice that you seem to ascribe these traits to a minority of athletes in those fields. Why are you more harsh about PvPers in a video game?
PvPers subscribe to the same mentality. Competition. Some people can handle competition for what it is. People like Jim Thorpe who gave everything they had to their sport, while maintaining a level of sportsman conduct. On the other hand, you have people like Iron Mike Tyson who beat his wife, crashed his car into a tree, bit off someone's ear, got hooked on cocaine, and did time in prison. Now, there are far more great athletes than athletic criminals, just as there are far more competitive PvPers than there are sociopath PvPers. Sadly, the only exposure I seem to get is to the Mike Tysons. I would much rather meet a Jim Thorpe.
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kirbyshocksword
06.04.2014 , 01:58 PM | #114
Sorry guys havent been posting because i havent been on.
Im reading the posts right now, but i gtg for a little while.

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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:58 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Oh that's just ******** and you know it.

If you say "People who drive audis --- are jerks" it is perfectly clear that you don't mean SOME, MOST, MANY or FEW. If you say that, you are saying "everyone who drives an audi --- is a jerk".
Same thing if you say it about PvP players, RP'ers or People from Denmark.
Doesn't matter. If you make a statement like that it most certainly means ALL of them.
People who like water are white. That is not a fact, that is an opinion. Brown people, black people, red people, they all like water too. So to say I am inferring the word ALL, is ONCE AGAIN, your complete and inept misinterpretation. You need to just quit while you are behind.
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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:59 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by kirbyshocksword View Post
Sorry guys havent been posting because i havent been on.
Im reading the posts right now, but i gtg for a little while.
Thanks for the update.
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AlienEyeTX
06.04.2014 , 02:01 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
People who like water are white. That is not a fact, that is an opinion. Bown people, black people, red people, they all like water too. So to say I am inferring the word ALL, is ONCE AGAIN, your complete and inept misinterpretation. You need to just quit while you are behind.
Your statement is neither fact nor opinion. It is simply a false statement. It could be a false belief. But, it is not a fact or an opinion.
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Khevar
06.04.2014 , 02:02 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
Sadly, the only exposure I seem to get is to the Mike Tysons. I would much rather meet a Jim Thorpe.
Well this I can completely understand.

My experience has been the opposite. Practically everyone I know in this game does both PvE and PvP. I also am friends with a few people that exclusively PvP. With one notable exception (who will forever remain on my ignore list), these people are in the game to have fun, and are good people.

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OddballEasyEight
06.04.2014 , 02:03 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
People who like water are white. That is not a fact, that is an opinion. Bown people, black people, red people, they all like water too. So to say I am inferring the word ALL, is ONCE AGAIN, your complete and inept misinterpretation. You need to just quit while you are behind.
That isn't even the same thing.

It's a completely different type of statement.

And it's STILL faulty... If you change that and say "People who like PvP are white" you are in fact making a statement saying that all the people who like PvP are white.
Just like your statement implies that only white people like water. The fact that there is an underlying knowledge that most people like water (some actually don't) doesn't mean that a statement like that isn't implying that only white people like water. Because that is exactly what that statement does.
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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 02:03 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
Your statement is neither fact nor opinion. It is simply a false statement. It could be a false belief. But, it is not a fact or an opinion.
It is a statement, by me, expressing my opinion about people who like water. Your problem is, you are pedantic enough to need it to be a fact, with context, and proof. As someone else pointed out, saying the sky is grey, is a personal opinion, not a fact. The sky being blue, is also, not a fact. If you are colorblind, to YOU, there is no correct color except the one YOU see.
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