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horrorfaneightys
06.04.2014 , 01:32 PM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I enjoy expressing my opinion. Arguments are started by the people who tell me I am not entitled to my opinion. Also, "trying" PvP does not make you a bully. Mercilessly stalking/harassing/camping people for weeks on end makes you a bully.
But not every PVPer does that. I met so many friendly players, and only one camping loser. Your post did come across as labelling all PVPers as jerks.
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OddballEasyEight
06.04.2014 , 01:33 PM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I never used the word ALL. Not once. Next time, read what is actually there, not what you THINK is there, before you comment.
I was just using an example.

Heres what you DID say:

"People who ONLY PvP --- are jerks. Always have been trash talking jerks, who want nothing more than to stuff you in a locker and laugh with their fat, stupid friends as they walk away. People who PvP, and only PvP, are just not right in the head. You can't be to WANT to take/give that kind of abuse to others."

"People who ONLY PvP --- are jerks."... That means ALL people who only PvP.
You might not have used the specific word "all", but you were still making a broad statement about a large group.
Exchange the words "PvP" with "are from XXX country" and you'll quickly notice that you are indeed stereotyping an entire group.

Stop backpedaling and just admit that you insulted an entire group of players and that you were wrong in doing so.
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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:37 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by horrorfaneightys View Post
But not every PVPer does that. I met so many friendly players, and only one camping loser. Your post did come across as labelling all PVPers as jerks.
I never said EVERY PvPer. Again, people are adding words they WANT to see in what I wrote. I never said every, all, most. I gave an opinion and simply used the word PvPers. It could mean 2 PvPers or 2 billion PvPers.
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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:39 PM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
I was just using an example.

Heres what you DID say:

"People who ONLY PvP --- are jerks. Always have been trash talking jerks, who want nothing more than to stuff you in a locker and laugh with their fat, stupid friends as they walk away. People who PvP, and only PvP, are just not right in the head. You can't be to WANT to take/give that kind of abuse to others."

"People who ONLY PvP --- are jerks."... That means ALL people who only PvP.
You might not have used the specific word "all", but you were still making a broad statement about a large group.
Exchange the words "PvP" with "are from XXX country" and you'll quickly notice that you are indeed stereotyping an entire group.

Stop backpedaling and just admit that you insulted an entire group of players and that you were wrong in doing so.
I could mean SOME, MOST, ALL, MANY, FEW. Your interpretation is such that you want it to mean ALL, because then you can discredit me for making a broad assumption, or for using hyperbole or anecdotal evidence. By not tying a SUM to the number of PvPers, it leaves my opinion as an OPINION, meaning it could be 2, or 2 billion. Interpret it how YOU see fit, but don't yell at me for YOUR interpretation.
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Superman_AZ
06.04.2014 , 01:41 PM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Stop backpedaling and just admit that you insulted an entire group of players and that you were wrong in doing so.
I don't have to, since I gave an OPINION, that was misinterpreted by you and others in this discussion simply because you wanted so desperately for me to be wrong. Well, my OPINION is just as valid as anyone elses. I've defended it thus far from all of the misinterpretations and will NOT be apologizing for how I feel about PvPers.
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Khevar
06.04.2014 , 01:43 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
No. Most professional sports are there for the purpose of sport; however, I do believe a small percentage of athletes are in it for the rush of getting to hurt someone else. I find every "contact" sport has at least a small percentage of ruffians who are simply in it to hit someone, and hit them hard. While other players can go their entire career without ever getting a penalty flag, certain players almost LIVE in a penalty box. Mike Tyson, Charles Barkley, Kent Shamrock, etc. I find the correlation between PvP and sports, and the mentality of the small percentage of players in both, to be very much on par. If Mike Tyson played SWTOR, I imagine a Sith Juggernaut in PvP would be right up his alley.
I understand the point you're trying to make.

But I notice that you seem to ascribe these traits to a minority of athletes in those fields. Why are you more harsh about PvPers in a video game?

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AGSThomas
06.04.2014 , 01:47 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
I understand the point you're trying to make.

But I notice that you seem to ascribe these traits to a minority of athletes in those fields. Why are you more harsh about PvPers in a video game?
Stop feeding the troll. Hes comparing a mass murderer to someone who camps his sorry *** in a video game.
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OddballEasyEight
06.04.2014 , 01:50 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I could mean SOME, MOST, ALL, MANY, FEW. Your interpretation is such that you want it to mean ALL, because then you can discredit me for making a broad assumption, or for using hyperbole or anecdotal evidence. By not tying a SUM to the number of PvPers, it leaves my opinion as an OPINION, meaning it could be 2, or 2 billion. Interpret it how YOU see fit, but don't yell at me for YOUR interpretation.
Oh that's just ******** and you know it.

If you say "People who drive audis --- are jerks" it is perfectly clear that you don't mean SOME, MOST, MANY or FEW. If you say that, you are saying "everyone who drives an audi --- is a jerk".
Same thing if you say it about PvP players, RP'ers or People from Denmark.
Doesn't matter. If you make a statement like that it most certainly means ALL of them.
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AlienEyeTX
06.04.2014 , 01:50 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I could mean SOME, MOST, ALL, MANY, FEW. Your interpretation is such that you want it to mean ALL, because then you can discredit me for making a broad assumption, or for using hyperbole or anecdotal evidence. By not tying a SUM to the number of PvPers, it leaves my opinion as an OPINION, meaning it could be 2, or 2 billion. Interpret it how YOU see fit, but don't yell at me for YOUR interpretation.
If you meant it to be qualified, then you should have qualified it. Otherwise, it is implied that you are referring to all. Welcome to the English language.
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horrorfaneightys
06.04.2014 , 01:50 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I could mean SOME, MOST, ALL, MANY, FEW. Your interpretation is such that you want it to mean ALL, because then you can discredit me for making a broad assumption, or for using hyperbole or anecdotal evidence. By not tying a SUM to the number of PvPers, it leaves my opinion as an OPINION, meaning it could be 2, or 2 billion. Interpret it how YOU see fit, but don't yell at me for YOUR interpretation.
If you meant some, you would have said that. It's like saying English are racist. By not adding the word some, or a few, it's implied that you think all English are racist.

Edit: two people beat me to it.
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