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05.29.2014 , 02:16 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Joesixxpack View Post
YIf most players aren't doing Ops or PVP as big parts of their bread and butter experience, or working towards those things, what are they mostly doing?
Great question! I'm anxious to hear the answer...
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05.29.2014 , 02:17 PM | #122
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Leveling up to see the stories on the various planets or playing in GSF?
They aren't in GSF lol
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05.29.2014 , 02:17 PM | #123
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Great question! I'm anxious to hear the answer...
My answer was subjected to the bottom of the page post x.x
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05.29.2014 , 02:18 PM | #124
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They aren't in GSF lol
On the Harbinger they are.
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Infernixx
05.29.2014 , 02:18 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Joesixxpack View Post
You don't have any real numbers and neither do I. So let's stay with perceived generalities.

If most players aren't doing Ops or PVP as big parts of their bread and butter experience, or working towards those things, what are they mostly doing?
Everything else in the game? Leveling alts, making credits, farming mounts, achievements?

GSF? Farming Classic gear?

Role playing?

I mean, right now, I'm sitting here and it's 4pm on a Thursday and people are spamming for 16man SM TC and DP and DF on JC.

All I have to do is look at Gen Chat on my server and see that despite all the claims to the contrary, there's a lot of people in the game doing stuff all the time.

So, I don't know. Maybe that's why I can't take all these complaints seriously. They just fly in the face of simple observed reality.
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05.29.2014 , 02:19 PM | #126
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Sure you can, if those players are in the minority.
Not that many players actually do Ops you know*... especially not NiM ones.
So pumping out new ones faster than they do seems like a misuse of resources.
It's the same thing with PvP. Most players evidently only play PvP sparcely, if at all. For them the number of maps is quite adequate. But for hard-core PvP'ers who do it almost every day those maps are far too few and they complain about a lack of updates for PvP.
There's more to do in the game than just Ops you know.

*I'm talking percentages of the total player population here of course. 10% or even 1% of all the players in SW:TOR still counts as "plenty of players". Just not compared to the rest of the games population.
I do solo PVE story content which has seen very little content added outside of ROTHC.

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Infernixx
05.29.2014 , 02:24 PM | #127
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Shooing your children off to the next thing makes a good dad in your mind? Huh...
I'll be generous and give you this one for free.

If you spoon-feed your kids activities to do, they'll never learn to find their own entertainment, nor figure out what 'they' personally prefer to do. You give them options, but you don't hand-hold them through the process.

Otherwise, you end up with 16 year old kids looking at you going "Entertain us."

God, now I know where all the 'this content sucks, we're bored' complainers are coming from.
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Joesixxpack
05.29.2014 , 02:25 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Everything else in the game? Leveling alts, making credits, farming mounts, achievements?

GSF? Farming Classic gear?

Role playing?

I mean, right now, I'm sitting here and it's 4pm on a Thursday and people are spamming for 16man SM TC and DP and DF on JC.

All I have to do is look at Gen Chat on my server and see that despite all the claims to the contrary, there's a lot of people in the game doing stuff all the time.

So, I don't know. Maybe that's why I can't take all these complaints seriously. They just fly in the face of simple observed reality.
You named two Ops.... and I'm not asking if the game is dead or whatever, just my earlier question. I should clarify and say end-game. When leveling I don't see big player pops past homeworlds. Can't imagine that's keeping the majority engaged, particularly those that did all the different class stories already and whatever they wanted to replay for different options. Market-centric players are out there, but are they a big slice of the population?

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Joesixxpack
05.29.2014 , 02:28 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
I'll be generous and give you this one for free.

If you spoon-feed your kids activities to do, they'll never learn to find their own entertainment, nor figure out what 'they' personally prefer to do. You give them options, but you don't hand-hold them through the process.

Otherwise, you end up with 16 year old kids looking at you going "Entertain us."

God, now I know where all the 'this content sucks, we're bored' complainers are coming from.
Yeah may be true for some. But I'd wager that most of the people posting here are adults throwing their work perspectives at this rather than spoiled brats.

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Reno_Tarshil
05.29.2014 , 02:30 PM | #130
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Yeah may be true for some. But I'd wager that most of the people posting here are adults throwing their work perspectives at this rather than spoiled brats.
Adults can be spoiled brats haha.
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