Has SWTOR gotten any better?

milking is a derogatory term. It implies that as a human beings players do not free will. It implies that the playerbase is being forced to spend real life money on cartel coins. And it implies that players have to spend cartel coins in order to play the game, NONE OF WHICH IS THE CASE.

Indeed.

Honestly, I would look into Wild Star, I have been Beta testing it and this is one game that the company has actually gotten right. SWTOR is nothing more than the cartel market. They add more dailies, big deal, they get boring after the 100th time just like any other daily. They aren't going to add any playable race that have a unique body style.


They aren't going to add any new classes. They aren't going to advance class stories. I would assume that when the license runs out, EA will shut the doors on this game and call it a lost cause, if they do not shut it down before then.


Servers are losing more and more people by the day. The PvP servers are almost a joke. The game isn't going anywhere in the direction players want it, only the way EA wants it.


I hate to say it but this game was doomed the moment it hit F2P. They will use the Cartel Market to get as much cash as they can before it is completely dead.

here is the thing about that: there was intense hype for eso before it came out. Then eso came out. From what I hear its still a good game, but you cannot deny, bots in the pvp!? thats ridiculous and cannot be good at all for that game. The point is, there is NO PERFECT LAUNCH for any mmo, I can believe Wildstar will make money, I can believe it will have a loyal playerbase, and I can believe some players will leave for wildstar. HOWEVER, its not going to kill any games, and its launch is not going to be perfect, its going to have flaws and problems, and ultimately some people will get angry with it when they realize its not the ultimate mmo that they built up in their heads.

what! a gaming company encourages its f2p players to upgrade to sub status or pay money to it!!! Oh the humanity


swtor is not the first and certainly not the last gaming company to encourage its free to play playerbase to upgrade to sub or spend money on the cash shop, you are kidding yourself if you think that swtor is the only game that does that, but the subs are not getting drained at all.

Knowing where he's coming from, because I was playing the same game before returning to SWTOR, I doubt any of what you listed is much of a concern.

OWPvP was always a joke in this game; the planets just aren't well designed to support it. As for large scale factional PvP (ie RvR), it's always a joke unless it's delivered on as massive a scale as DAoC's.

Newly returning player probably has little interest atm in ranked 8s, which is what I assume you were referring to.

3 new maps....I mean, they should definitely put out more, but that's hardly gamebreaking.

You missed the part where he said he came from FFXIV, which only has a gimpy arena system for PvP (no OWPvP at all).

As a subscriber, I don't feel compelled to spend cartel coins on anything. Well, I did feel a little compelled to get certain legacy and character perk unlocks, but with those out of the way there's nothing else I want to spend CC on, even if there are a few cartel items I would buy off the CC if they were available but will instead get from the GTN.

I've heard this about too many previous games to be swayed by it. Every developer seems to be awesome and attentive to beta testers, and always does the right thing...right up until launch, when every developer suddenly starts behaving like every other developer I've already been burned by.

It was doomed before that, and you'd be surprised at the second life a cash shop can give to an MMO, but you're probably right that they won't renew the license (I'm sure the cost will be exorbitant).

apparently cause its "star wars", its what he said in that other thread. We all know what he is trying to do, but its best to not say a word about it.

You have an odd way of doing that, based on your post history. Hasn't anyone ever told you that you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar?

hey, we stop insulting you if you stop insulting us, calling people "drones" and "apologists" or whatever else is in your head, and stop being so rude with your posts and rude to posts that make logical points against your arguments (and I mean real logic not your "logic")

by repeatedly insulting the game, its players, dismissing anyone who even remotely likes current state of the game and offering NO constructive feedback? (in case you are wondering - saying that something is suck and fail and dying and patting other people who say the same and promoting another game is NOT constructive feedback)
riiiight >_>

your personal preferences do not make for an objective assessment.