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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Reno_Tarshil
05.26.2014 , 06:07 PM | #401
Quote: Originally Posted by SithEBM-Reborn View Post
So I guess the only non-trolly way of providing feedback on these forums is by blindly defending the game and EAware.
Nope. It's called being polite, constructive, Not putting flamebait, not using pointless labels like EAware or Biodrone/Defender/White Knight/Apologists, providing relevant evidence that isn't 2 years old.

You want to share your distaste for the game? Cool, but don't expect to be treated kindly if all you're going to do is fill your OP with negative flamebait reactions when we call you out on it.
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05.26.2014 , 09:02 PM | #402
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05.27.2014 , 12:12 PM | #403
" Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out! "

Really are you sure? I ask because I have never been online where the PVP sever has had more players online then RP or PvE. PvP when I go on line has light or standard as for how many are on that sever, RP or EVP say heavy or are equal, never seen heavy on a PvP when the other have had light or standard. I have to say I totally disagree with your headline.

I have characters on all 3 UK and US severs. Ok I get it you are a PvP'er sure lots are, just don't assume we all are. I do PVP myself but don't prefer it, just not going to waste the 22 character slots I am allowed there.

LOL, ok I know you have changed your post 1, so other than the headline it hard to comment on anything else. also noted that you have said you now regret that headline, but your revised post still maintains what you put to be correct and saying only bioware knows for sure, well the only evidence I can go on is, as put earlier is on how heavy or light the sever says is online, and going by that the evidence says otherwise, but you know not on every second of the day so sure maybe its just the time of day I happen to play TOR.

As for Pvp'er not been able to make the big bucks, well there might be some truth to that, I really only play solo even on the PvP sever so personally this has never been an issue for me, but maybe PvP'er goal is something other than making credits.

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TUXs
05.27.2014 , 12:15 PM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by DreadtechSavant View Post
Really are you sure? I ask because I have never been online where the PVP sever has had more players online then RP or PvE.
Different pop caps account for the RP server appearing to be more populated. The server types are not equal so to compare them on that basis is flawed. Ask Andryah for the link to that fact.

And yes, he's sure, but he's phrased it poorly...MOST players PvP....and MOST players PvE. The PvE only or PvP only folk are the minority here.
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DreadtechSavant
05.27.2014 , 12:40 PM | #405
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Different pop caps account for the RP server appearing to be more populated. The server types are not equal so to compare them on that basis is flawed. Ask Andryah for the link to that fact.

And yes, he's sure, but he's phrased it poorly...MOST players PvP....and MOST players PvE. The PvE only or PvP only folk are the minority here.
If you say so, I will take you at your word, I was editing my post when you posted this but the gist is the same, certainly the part you quoted. I get a bad time lag when there's a lot of players on a sever (old PC) , all my highest characters are on the pvp sever because the time lags not as bad there, I was also going on that not just if it says heavy or light, but have not looked at any other evidence so as said I will take you at your word.

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Sangrar
05.27.2014 , 02:44 PM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by catracho View Post
The problem is is that PvPers have only like 5 dailies (not including GSF) and PvEers have over 100 dailies. PvEers have way more opportunity and access to making credits while PvPers don't, and we shouldn't be forced to play content we're not interested in whatsoever. We play games to have fun, not do homework.
to be fair, A: I do not think its possible to do 100 dailes in a day, and B: good god dailies get boring after a while, I know pveers who hate doing that stuff. True I want more pvp quests which is why I post suggestions on some simple stuff that could be a nice change of pace, but still just imagine if we had to dig through 100 quests in 1 pvp terminal! that would suck horribly
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Sangrar
05.27.2014 , 02:51 PM | #407
Quote: Originally Posted by catracho View Post
Implement some other options for QoL, like in emails where you have a checkbox to "select all." Plus completing most of these PvE dailies only take 15 to 30 minutes. You can finish a majority of these dailies on several toons and make an exponential amount than a PvP only player.
you cannot finish them all in one day, not without being bored out of your mind. Plus, if you don't pve, how do you know how long it takes to do a pve daily, hmmmmm?

also, select all, the mission log cannot fit 100 missions
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05.27.2014 , 02:51 PM | #408
Quote: Originally Posted by catracho View Post
The problem is is that PvPers have only like 5 dailies (not including GSF) and PvEers have over 100 dailies. PvEers have way more opportunity and access to making credits while PvPers don't, and we shouldn't be forced to play content we're not interested in whatsoever. We play games to have fun, not do homework.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but you have to realize two things:

1. Dailies for PvE people is worse than homework. They're dull beyond all possible belief. I would rather shave with a cheese grater than run dailies over and over and over again.

2. Any PvE'er that is sick of dailies does crafting / GTN work instead. As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, you could make a ton of credits queueing your companions for some sort of gathering missions WHILE YOU PVP. This would allow you to make all the money you want, all while doing what you love.

PvE dailies wear on the soul and are the least interesting part of the game. PvP on the other hand is fun, enjoyable and exciting. If you think PvE players are having a good time the 800th time you run a daily "because it's PvE" then you're quite mistaken.

TL;DR: The solution for money woes as a PvP player is to send your companions out while you play, then stop by the GTN at the end of the day and sell what you've got.

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Zoom_VI
05.27.2014 , 03:41 PM | #409
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Different pop caps account for the RP server appearing to be more populated. The server types are not equal so to compare them on that basis is flawed. Ask Andryah for the link to that fact.

And yes, he's sure, but he's phrased it poorly...MOST players PvP....and MOST players PvE. The PvE only or PvP only folk are the minority here.
To be fair overall counts are not valid. Overall the title of the thread is so wrong its not even funny. However for the purpose of the thread its best to not count lowbie only players that do not partake in endgame content

Once you do that, this thread's title becomes more valid. Is it true? idk probably not under the new constraints however PvP'ers are most definitely comprising a significant portion of the endgame populations. (like at least 40%) Even if PvP'ers are not a "true" majority we PvP'ers still comprise enough of the playerbase that our concerns hold weight. (alienating ~40% are a customer pool is not a smart business move)

I am defining "PvP'er" as someone who spends the majority of their time pursuing PvP activities
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Anaesha
05.27.2014 , 04:05 PM | #410
I haven't done PVP once since coming back to TOR and I don't see myself doing it in the foreseeable future either. This is just another case of one person assuming he knows what everyone else's preferences are.