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Remove bolster from ranked and require expertize before Que!

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Remove bolster from ranked and require expertize before Que!

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NuSeC
05.23.2014 , 11:26 AM | #1
Maybe I am the only one but this seems ridiculously obvious as a needed solution.

There is a way for people to get gear and for people to PVP with more like minded individuals that want casual PVP. It is called regular WZs.

It is extraordinarily frustrating jumping in a ranked match with people who are wearing blues and greens!

Get that crap out of ranked! 90% of the time it is these same people that rage out in a match and leave because they get ROFLstomped.

These people are ruining it for the people that actually CARE about the ranked PVP community and their rating!

It is a slap in the face to get into a ranked match with someone who is rocking level 45 gear (or PTs, Mandos wearing strength implants etc).

And then sometimes you get stuck in a q cycle with these guys for 3-4 or even 5 matches in a row. Punishment for even Qing up! It is almost always going to be a guaranteed lose that counts against you.

Maybe BW does not care about the time we dedicate to making the most of the little PVP community we have but this is ridicules.
It's called ranked for a reason, stop setting up the matches and its players for failure by allowing people who don't care about winning able to play. Ranked was developed for serious contenders (or at least people who want more out of PVP), not casuals that don't care about their rating much less the rating of others. Regular WZs is what those guys need to focus on.

Solve this issue!

Require expertize before Que for ranked WZ and/or remove bolster from ranked ! Leave the regs alone but for goodness sakes do something.




TL;DR

Make ranked what it should have been to start with. Require Expertize and get rid of bolster in ranked.
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teclado
05.23.2014 , 04:24 PM | #2
Require expertize before what! De que te quejas?

In all seriousness, I agree. Ranked is elite pvp minus the elite part.

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MidichIorian
05.23.2014 , 04:45 PM | #3
Are you trying to put responsibility on the players? What is this sorcery?

2.9 is introducing handicap mode, you get an extra 50 % HP and main stat.

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Pistols
05.23.2014 , 04:46 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by MidichIorian View Post
Are you trying to put responsibility on the players? What is this sorcery?

2.9 is introducing handicap mode, you get an extra 50 % HP and main stat.
^ Don't give them any ideas, I'm sure Tait would actually think this is a good idea.

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Zadtro
05.23.2014 , 05:31 PM | #5
/agreed x1000

Ranked pvp is meant to be the top lvl of pvp in the game yet bolster is there. Bolster was made to help first time entry players into endgame pvp and help with equaling out lowby/midby pvp so yeah, in regular wz's that's great for people who have just dinged and starting to farm gear. In ranked their should be no one with 27k HP trying to queue ranked. It increases trolls and screws with rating.

So yes I agree +1 from me dude

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Marxxis
05.23.2014 , 05:49 PM | #6
I have to agree, what would be the point of Obroan if you you're just gonna skip a whole step?

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AnteJeebuz
05.23.2014 , 05:56 PM | #7
55 Advanced Class
No Bolster.


Require Expertise though? lol Really? I mean while you are at it may as well require all gear to be min-maxed, have everything augmented and have all datacrons. Oh and lets not forget to require them to have all 4 buffs, a stim on and an inventory full of wz medpacks and adrenals.
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teclado
05.23.2014 , 10:10 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by AnteJeebuz View Post
55 Advanced Class
No Bolster.


Require Expertise though? lol Really? I mean while you are at it may as well require all gear to be min-maxed, have everything augmented and have all datacrons. Oh and lets not forget to require them to have all 4 buffs, a stim on and an inventory full of wz medpacks and adrenals.
I think that it is actually quite commonly accepted that one should have most of those things prior to doing ranked. It's supposed to be the endgame pvp, not the "just learning the ropes and I have no clue what augments or stims are lololol". Allowing anybody with any gear to queue for ranked is like not marking double black diamond slopes on a mountain at a ski resort. People are gonna get roughed up, and they may take others with them as they cascade down the mountainside.

I never once even attempted a ranked match until I had the following:
- Warzone medpacks
- All augments
- Stims
- Max expertise unbolstered
- Gear min/maxed as best as I knew how
- A good amount of experience in regular warzones

^^ I really don't think it's too hard to achieve those things. I think that solo ranked has an identity crisis. Is it endgame pvp or not? How is it any different than regular warzones other than it gives better rewards and wins and losses are tracked? Why not track wins and losses for regulars, then?

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AnteJeebuz
05.23.2014 , 10:27 PM | #9
I wont step foot into a RWZ, grouped or solo, without all of those. My point is making a requirement to hit "Queue solo" Or "queue group" for all those things is silly, just like making people queue with full expertise. I know plenty of healers that use expertise crystals and do well, I know others who prefer to use one or even two power crystals instead. Like me, after toying around on Ilum's western shelf for 3 hours. I came to the conclusion I get more out of 1x power crystal + 1x expertise than I do with 2x expertise or 2x power. So, my operative takes that small defensive cut to get more out of healing. That is just me though. I know plenty of operatives who can outheal me with 2x power or 2x expertise.

Also, removing bolster would eliminate any old armor set bonuses some people use because it bolsters all nice and pretty.

If we just remove the bolster, you will eliminate alot of issues, such as people rolling in there in full PVE gear because, I mean who in full 180s likes to get hit for a 14k force scream off a carnage marauder? I know healers wont like being nuked for 10k-11k in a single attack if they are using the bolster to benefit them with a certain 2-4 set bonus of campaign gear.
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Phuzakie
05.23.2014 , 11:53 PM | #10
Then make an expertise cap for unranked, and disallow premades of any size. You want to penalize the undergeared who are trying to get carried, and yet the overgeared can easily queue up and make it infinitely harder for the undergeared to get gear... so, save your tears. Maybe you should get on the ranked players that are too busy stroking their "ego" by dominating pug noobs in huttball.

Till then I'll queue ranked naked and try ever so slightly.
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