"Cantina Tour"- Why is this front page news?

Because they have no real news to share. Unfortunately, Bioware is a game with Big Time MMO potential, but an indie MMO mentality,

where every tiny thing is blown out of proportion into a huge holy deal.

Only a select minority ever get to attend the cantina events, so it actually touches a very few people. There are hundreds of thousands of people...maybe a million playing here? Never really sure how many actually play, but there are alot more than, just the handful that get these events.

Do you not go on any other websites with ads?

YouTube
GameFAQS
IGN
Gamespot
GameTrailers
Giant Bomb

Just to name a few sites where I see them advertise all the time.



How would Dulfy get the content if there's no event to provide it?

For example how would she get stuff like Concept Art?



Wow seriously?

I guess I'm not surprised (given your other comments) that you'd think these forums are where the player base is.

This game has what around half a million to a million people playing it? Where exactly are you seeing those numbers on the forum?

You're no different than all the other arrogant entitled whiners that think they know everything or what's best when all you do is just assume.



What benefit is that to anyone who's not on the forums? Do you not realize what a small fraction of the game these forums represent.

The people that post on these forums are not the game's most important players. People need to get over that fact.



Oh kinda like the forums huh?



Yeah and the large majority of said people are (GASP) playing the game, not going to website(s) or posting on forums.



Barely.



You sound like someone that's never worked in the gaming industry. Oh what's that, you haven't and these are all just crazy assumptions of yours?

Welcome to the Marketing concept of "pull-through".... where you perform an event that only a small fraction actually attend..... BUT..... many many more hover and wait anxiously to hear what came from said event from those that attended. And in today's twitterfied/FB'ed internet world...... "pull through" is huge to companies because the actual interested fans do most of the work for them.

Modern Marketing in action on the internet...... and there is still plenty of leverage with live events because of "pull-through".

The cantina tour is front page news so people know about it. If it was buried on some other page it would easily be missed. This is basic stuff people. Not that difficult to understand.

No I couldn't.

I wanted to get a reaction out of you and for you to pay attention to everything I said. Guess what? Mission accomplished.



Yup, and it worked.



Yeah right.

Most (if not all) forums like this are not places to where people can have meaningful discussions because the majority of them don't know how game development works and as such rarely suggest/demand things that are actually doable/possible.

GDC or to a lesser extent E3 are great places to have those types of conversations and that is generally my favorite part about those events. I don't really care about playing X game X months in advance. I'd much rather talk to developers about what they're working on or have worked on. And guess what? The Cantina Tours (aka the greatest crime committed against humanity according to you) give that ability to people. So the **** what if it's a few people? If it can expand their knowledge about how games are made and as a result allow them to offer better suggestions to the devs that's not a bad thing.

Screaming about class stories over and over again doesn't do anything. There's no discussion to be had there because it's not doable, nor is there a way around it. The current state of things doesn't allow for it.

Very rarely does it occur to people to make the most of what's already there. It's always more about what more can be added. For instance (honest truth) had I gone to one of the cantina tours like a year ago or whatever I would've suggested they use what existing art assets they have to their fullest potential, ie you have planets that are factions specific that you could use for convert missions (or whatever) with the opposite faction, and they ended up doing exactly that with the most recent Flashpoints. Not because of me or anything I ever did or said but because that's how game development works. When you look around the forums though very rarely if ever do people suggest anything like "Hey make a Imperial Flashpoint that takes place on Tython!" it's generally some crazy ridiculous sky is the limit suggestion. "Oh hey just add these dozen new species to the game!" Really? How about they maximize the potential of the system they've already got? It's not exactly what you wanted but it's definitely a benefit.



What I've worked on wouldn't change your view on anything. Regardless of what I say/post your mind is already made up on everything. Your thoughts are already set.

I could tell you that I worked on this very game and it still wouldn't matter to you, or rather it would all of a sudden just become "Why this? Why not that? How come this? How come that?"

When developers interact with people on forums like these there's almost no chance of it not going south. Just look at any significant post a staff member on here makes because it basically has no chance of not turning into a negative. Eric could make the most positive post ever but people would find some way to complain still or destroy it. For instance he could make a post about how Class Stories are coming back and you'd still have multiple people saying stuff like "...and PVPers get shafted yet again. Thanks Bioware." and you wonder why they'd rather do public events.



Except you being nasty doesn't do anything. You don't like the idea of it so it's unlikely you're getting any satisfaction out of it nor is it making me see the "error of my ways" or anything like that so I guess it kind of fits in line with what I've been telling you.



See that's the thing though not everything being said is an opinion. Assumptions aren't opinions, you and others will, can, and do say things that can be proven wrong. You love to hide behind the opinion defense because that way there's no way for anybody to be right or wrong, but that's just not how things are or work. Not everything is an opinion. Sometimes people are just wrong.



That statement was directed at everyone that acts like these forums are important or that they some how reflect the majority of people playing. "Well the players here are saying this, and that's a lot of people to me, so we must be right and Bioware should do what we say." That is how you and others act constantly.

You/me/we have no significance here. You're not going to look back on any of this a year from now and say "that was really worth my time. I really did some good there." Chances are you're going to feel the opposite.

TL;DR. Nice attempt at trolling. You do have a gift for hyperbole lol. I'm sticking to my opinion, because I believe in it, and I don't believe Cantina Tours are the best way to promote the game. You can try to pick at me some more if you like, it won't do any good, so go read your post over and over to yourself, so you can all feel all high and mighty some more lol. I can't be bothered.