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Has SWTOR gotten any better?

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Has SWTOR gotten any better?

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LordArtemis
05.22.2014 , 02:41 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedilightness View Post
Hey all, I have a serious question that needs answering, after playing FFXIV for a longtime I am starting to slowly get bored with it and wanting to come back to SWTOR for its unique storytelling and PvP as PvP in any game is quite a big importance for me. So i have stuff to do really.
I stopped being a sub since January 2012 but added some more time to my account today. But onto my main question

But I am wondering since then, has the game gotten any better with endgame and pvp?

Also are finding groups much quicker now? I remember I used to sit on group finder for 2-8 hours and never find a group for a good week.
Endgame and PVP have improved immensely IMO, and que times are much faster now. There are still improvements to be had, but since the time you unsubbed (jan 2012) the improvements are substantial to say the least.

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MaximusRex
05.22.2014 , 02:42 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Dawginole View Post
Yes. But the problem for him is that he said PvP was very important to him. PvP has has Open World removed, 8x8 removed, and only 3 new maps added since launch almost 3 years ago. So if PvP is very important to him... then well... lolz
Open world PvP wasn't removed, the Ilum area was redesigned and removed as a daily. 8v8 wasn't removed, ranked 8v8 was. 3 maps is a lot compared to many PvE based MMOs. SWTOR launched December 20, 2011, or about 2 years, 5 months ago.

Since you have such a terrible skewed vision of reality, I don't think any of your opinions are very trustworthy.

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Pistols
05.22.2014 , 02:50 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusRex View Post
Open world PvP wasn't removed, the Ilum area was redesigned and removed as a daily. 8v8 wasn't removed, ranked 8v8 was. 3 maps is a lot compared to many PvE based MMOs. SWTOR launched December 20, 2011, or about 2 years, 5 months ago.

Since you have such a terrible skewed vision of reality, I don't think any of your opinions are very trustworthy.
Doesn't negate the fact that PvP has seen content removed. If you were to poll PvP'ers, they don't want maps, they want PvP content that keeps them around. OWPvP is a failure in TOR, period. 8 Man Rankeds were removed because the Dev team never built the system like the one we have with Arenas. I'm sure the person you quoted was speaking of 8 man rankeds, it doesn't take much to deduce that much.

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Rafaman
05.22.2014 , 05:48 AM | #34
There is Ashy. Lol! Still refusing to go to TESO, err... wait, scratch that it is Wildstar now, permanently. I think Ashy loves TOR, but... just hates playing with others. He wants it all to himself.

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MidichIorian
05.22.2014 , 06:51 AM | #35
Granted that this is my opinion and highly subjective but I think they've broken the PvP to the point that i hardly ever play it anymore. It's a different story if you like Arenas I guess, if that's the case you'll have a new venue.

BUT, for someone who doesnt like Arenas it's pretty much down to the following now:
*You'll always be considered a 2nd grade player if you don't participate in Arenas. It doesnt matter that you slap all the Arena "pros" silly in normal, you'll still hear about your lack of rating or how you opinion doesnt matter if you refer to a balance issue etc.
*Arena in normals is the most lopsided gamemode I've played in any game, ever, and I've played a lot of games. At no point will it ever be even remotely compeitive.
*You are constantly thrown in to Arena in the normal playlist, with no way of turning this off, despite that you originally subbed for 8 vs 8 and never asked for Arena.
*It's futile to solo queue. This is the main reason I'm hardly PvP'ing anymore because between all the backfills and Arenas, which i insta-quit, I more or less never get to play a proper 8 vs 8 match from start. Even the days I actually queue I'm usually quitting after 30 minutes on behalf of not having played a game yet.

End-game PvE is a lackluster in terms of content. They might hace added some stuff since you were last here but it's noweher near the content we could have had if they had focused and skipped all the extra BS that no one really cares about for more than 5 minutes anyway. GSF was a massive failure and so will housing be. I would have been totally indifferent to the things I just mentioned IF it hadnt been for the fact that BW is seemingly stuck with a 5-man staff so whenever they create something it means that something els isnt created. People are too stupid to understand this so they're still lobbying these crazy ideas that would have been fine in a sucessful game with a staff of 200. It doesnt work that way in this game.

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Arkerus
05.22.2014 , 06:55 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by AshenK View Post
no it hasn't it's gotten much worse.

the pve is still boring, quests are still some of the most boring things out there. the 'class' stories range from so so to awful, flashpoints still have lots of broken parts in them, and bioware has decided no more new raids rather they are just going to rehash old raids by giving the mobs more health. pvp is awful as well, no open world pvp, ranked pvp is roll a assassin or op. really if you want to pvp just roll one of the two the other classes don't do nearly as much damage or healing as sins and ops. and bioware is nerfing the other classes and beefing up sins and ops why? i guess the devs play those two.

gsf is a full on failure and is dead on just about every server, maybe you'll get a match or two popping once every few hours but if that's what you want go play war thunder. the cartel market is the only thing that really gets updated with more p2w systems that are milking the player base dry of money. strongholds is all about the cartel market. any new content comes in the form of tactical flashpoints that are some of the most easy content ever, i have friends that solo them for fun. and events like the gambling event that puts in slot machines that people are reporting spending millions of credits on and winning nothing.

i'd look at games like wildstar, eve, the secret world and the swg emu.
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DarthTHC
05.22.2014 , 07:08 AM | #37
You're subscribed now, else you couldn't post to this forum. Why not play it for a month and form your own opinion?

You could even read the patch notes history and get a feel for what new things you could try.

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DarthTHC
05.22.2014 , 07:12 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by AshenK View Post
no it hasn't it's gotten much worse.

the pve is still boring, quests are still some of the most boring things out there. the 'class' stories range from so so to awful, flashpoints still have lots of broken parts in them, and bioware has decided no more new raids rather they are just going to rehash old raids by giving the mobs more health. pvp is awful as well, no open world pvp, ranked pvp is roll a assassin or op. really if you want to pvp just roll one of the two the other classes don't do nearly as much damage or healing as sins and ops. and bioware is nerfing the other classes and beefing up sins and ops why? i guess the devs play those two.

gsf is a full on failure and is dead on just about every server, maybe you'll get a match or two popping once every few hours but if that's what you want go play war thunder. the cartel market is the only thing that really gets updated with more p2w systems that are milking the player base dry of money. strongholds is all about the cartel market. any new content comes in the form of tactical flashpoints that are some of the most easy content ever, i have friends that solo them for fun. and events like the gambling event that puts in slot machines that people are reporting spending millions of credits on and winning nothing.

i'd look at games like wildstar, eve, the secret world and the swg emu.
Interesting advice... you direct people toward other games, some of which aren't even out yet, but here you are, still paying a subscription to this one and posting to its forums.

If those other games are all that and a bag of chips, what is it about this game that holds such an intense draw for you that you simply can't escape from it?

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Sangrar
05.22.2014 , 01:45 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by AshenK View Post
no it hasn't it's gotten much worse.

the pve is still boring, quests are still some of the most boring things out there. the 'class' stories range from so so to awful, flashpoints still have lots of broken parts in them, and bioware has decided no more new raids rather they are just going to rehash old raids by giving the mobs more health. pvp is awful as well, no open world pvp, ranked pvp is roll a assassin or op. really if you want to pvp just roll one of the two the other classes don't do nearly as much damage or healing as sins and ops. and bioware is nerfing the other classes and beefing up sins and ops why? i guess the devs play those two.

gsf is a full on failure and is dead on just about every server, maybe you'll get a match or two popping once every few hours but if that's what you want go play war thunder. the cartel market is the only thing that really gets updated with more p2w systems that are milking the player base dry of money. strongholds is all about the cartel market. any new content comes in the form of tactical flashpoints that are some of the most easy content ever, i have friends that solo them for fun. and events like the gambling event that puts in slot machines that people are reporting spending millions of credits on and winning nothing.

i'd look at games like wildstar, eve, the secret world and the swg emu.
what server you on at the most my que time for gsf takes 15 minutes on Bastion, 5 at the least

also, how the **** is the cartel market pay to win? Does wearing male stripper gear into pvp make me invincible!?

and "milking the player base dry of money", really!? I have not spent A DIME on cc's in my entire history playing this game, only my sub, so how am I getting "milked"!

learn to read the housing page, it shows the complimentary nar shadaa housing as CREDIT VALUES, so while there is going to be stuff like housing decorations on the cartel market, there will still be stuff sold FOR CREDITS


and the gambling event, oh I'm sorry, you know, because we all know you can spend all your money on casinos and always win. While I am not for the event entirely either still you cannot use "spending millions and getting nothing" as any evidence other than the fact that those people might have impulse control problems.
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Fantazm
05.22.2014 , 01:54 PM | #40
I do wonder if ashie is just a parody account. Whatever it is, it's amusing.