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Vader vs Anakin - Who is more powerful?

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Vader vs Anakin - Who is more powerful?

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Sadishist
05.16.2014 , 02:07 PM | #61
There's a reason why non-Force users don't use lightsabers, and why Jedi don't use blasters.

Lightsaber skill = Force strength
A fearful enemy is at his most dangerous.

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LordQordisz
05.16.2014 , 09:36 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Due to various circumstances that favored Obi-Wan, really Obi-Wan should have lost to Anakin by all accounts.
When I read the novel I don't get the idea that Anakin was really controlling this fight from start to finish. It seemed to me that Obi-Wan was really the fisherman here. You say "Due to various circumstances that favored Obi-Wan", but what about the circumstance of going up against someone with way more midichlorians, supposedly stronger in the Force, physically stronger, and younger? Do those circumstances not count?
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken.

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LordQordisz
05.16.2014 , 09:40 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
Kenobi on the other hand was constantly trying to gain a terrain advantage, which he eventually succeeded in. Thus favorable circumstance.
In all honesty, it was terrain they were both fighting on and correct me if I'm wrong but was the terrain like Obi-Wan's pet and responded to him to help him out, or were they both capable of using the terrain? When militia fight terrain is always important, both look to find the advantage, and not finding it to draw the other from his own advantage.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken.

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LordQordisz
05.16.2014 , 09:46 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
The point wolf was trying to make was that Anakin was the better duelist and the stronger force user, but his mentality got in his way.
Then that has to be counted as a weakness on Anakin's part that can be exploited, as he would with an opponent who's lightsaber Form did not match up favorably with his own. That's like a basketball team with great talent always shooting themselves in the foot because of foolish mistakes, the always untimely turnover, making the wrong decision in various situations, never exploiting a switch on which they have the advantage, or throwing all their marbles in on living and dying with the 3. The Thunder may be a more talented team that the Spurs but I would say most of the people would give the Spurs the advantage because they play the game better, team basketball, no one on one and poor half court offense. Anakin's mentality has to be accounted in his skill.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken.

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DariusCalera
05.17.2014 , 12:25 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Sadishist View Post
There's a reason why non-Force users don't use lightsabers, and why Jedi don't use blasters.

Lightsaber skill = Force strength
Bobba Fett, Cade Bane, General Grievous, and a host of other non force sensitive individuals have used light sabers.

The nobles of the Tipani Sector used the light foil.

So no, force power is not a prerequisite for using a light saber and the Jedi are more than willing to use a blaster if the need arises. Most of the New Jedi Order carried both a blaster and a light saber.

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Girdeux
05.17.2014 , 07:48 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by DariusCalera View Post
The nobles of the Tipani Sector used the light foil.

So no, force power is not a prerequisite for using a light saber and the Jedi are more than willing to use a blaster if the need arises. Most of the New Jedi Order carried both a blaster and a light saber.
Too bad these aren't canon examples though huh.

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tunewalker
05.17.2014 , 08:03 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by LordQordisz View Post
In all honesty, it was terrain they were both fighting on and correct me if I'm wrong but was the terrain like Obi-Wan's pet and responded to him to help him out, or were they both capable of using the terrain? When militia fight terrain is always important, both look to find the advantage, and not finding it to draw the other from his own advantage.
Obi-wan was trying to get a favorable position with the Terrain, Anakin was tunnel vissioning Obi-wan not paying attention to any of the changing terrain and only focusing on his masters blade work and his own blade work.


Mentallity does not equal saber skill in star wars they are 2 different catagories.

If you are lumping them into the same catagory you are wrong end of story move on.

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DariusCalera
05.17.2014 , 08:41 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
Too bad these aren't canon examples though huh.
Then I shall use Pre Vizsla with the Darksaber, General Grievous with his sabers, and Luke with his blaster on Cloud City. Even though he had, apparently, surpassed Padawan skill level at this point with a lightsaber.

Being force sensitive does not stop someone from using a blaster and having no force sensitivity does not keep one from using a lightsaber.

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Larsosis
05.20.2014 , 08:35 PM | #69
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