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Superman_AZ
05.16.2014 , 12:48 PM | #4961
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
It's not so much of a just a change thing. It's more principal to it. Learn to live with the choices you made in the past and if you don't like it, find a way to work around it while perhaps even incorporating some of the things you dislike about it into things you like. It's more of that. It's a learning experience. What would anything ever teach you if you could just change in a heartbeat what you wanted and never had to live with choice or consequence? It's the only way we grow.
Thank you for getting it. Half the challenge in the game should be the consequences of your actions.
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05.16.2014 , 12:49 PM | #4962
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
It's not so much of a just a change thing. It's more principal to it. Learn to live with the choices you made in the past and if you don't like it, find a way to work around it while perhaps even incorporating some of the things you dislike about it into things you like. It's more of that. It's a learning experience. What would anything ever teach you if you could just change in a heartbeat what you wanted and never had to live with choice or consequence? It's the only way we grow.
Let me remind you that this is simply a game. Grow however you like irl, but this is simply a form of entertainment for most people, not a place to learn life lessons.
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DomiSotto
05.16.2014 , 12:49 PM | #4963
I suspect that I can preserve my moral fiber even if I have an ability to swap a Seer for a Shadow... The choice of AC makes absolutely no difference on the game events that are truly and completely irreversible, only on game mechanics. Some classes are hard to play, and it is hard to figure it out early, when abandonment is easy enough. Say, someone came from SP world, and wanted to play a Consular just like in KOTOR2... and finds out by the end of Taris that Lightsabre is nothing more than a prop....

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Vhaegrant
05.16.2014 , 01:04 PM | #4964
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
Absolutely. I would also encourage readers to visit the original post and read all of the items you conveniently edited out
What this whole quote?

Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
Nope. No opposition at all. After reading through the thread, I think that once they have implemented the more important features, they should then entertain this notion for the 11 people who seem to want it. Seems only fair those 11 people get what they want after everything else in the game is added.
It's hard to tell what you are arguing for at this point. You say you are for an AC swap feature and then place such a heavy restriction on it it would never appear in the game.
That's effectively poor sarcasm that doesn't carry well in the written form.
Either, you are okay with AC swap in theory and wouldn't mind seeing it in the game sometime in the future (hence the whole ETA part of the thread) or you are against the AC swap feature and never want to see it in the game.

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Superman_AZ
05.16.2014 , 01:08 PM | #4965
Quote: Originally Posted by Vhaegrant View Post
What this whole quote?

It's hard to tell what you are arguing for at this point. You say you are for an AC swap feature and then place such a heavy restriction on it it would never appear in the game.
That's effectively poor sarcasm that doesn't carry well in the written form.
Either, you are okay with AC swap in theory and wouldn't mind seeing it in the game sometime in the future (hence the whole ETA part of the thread) or you are against the AC swap feature and never want to see it in the game.
Not sure why it is so hard to comprehend. You have at least 3 other posts in this very thread stating you are ok with AC swapping, AS LONG AS they implement more important things first.
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Sarfux
05.16.2014 , 01:11 PM | #4966
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Let me remind you that this is simply a game. Grow however you like irl, but this is simply a form of entertainment for most people, not a place to learn life lessons.
Take it as you will.
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Vhaegrant
05.16.2014 , 01:15 PM | #4967
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
It's not so much of a just a change thing. It's more principal to it. Learn to live with the choices you made in the past and if you don't like it, find a way to work around it while perhaps even incorporating some of the things you dislike about it into things you like. It's more of that. It's a learning experience. What would anything ever teach you if you could just change in a heartbeat what you wanted and never had to live with choice or consequence? It's the only way we grow.
Aside from story (which is a Class thing), the biggest choice you face with your character is the role you play (DPS, Tank, Heal), and if you are a subscriber you can change that freely nearly any time you want.

So taking your argument to its logical conclusion players should not be able to swap out of their specialisation once they have started placing training points in it?

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Sarfux
05.16.2014 , 01:21 PM | #4968
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Let me remind you that this is simply a game. Grow however you like irl, but this is simply a form of entertainment for most people, not a place to learn life lessons.
Also, in that case. Let's not make any difficulty settings for any Operations. Let's make an instant level 55 in the Cartel Market. Make it so you don't have to pay any credits while stripping out mods in gear. If it's purely for entertainment value make it so you can instantly change to any class you want like Eden Eternal. Make it so you can use blasters, sabers, pistols, vibroknives, vibroblades and everything so we can just have fun. They can also take out the leveling system because sometimes for some folks, it's not that fun leveling through some brackets. Make repairs cost nothing, make speeders at level 1 so everybody can be happy about getting around. If it's just used by some for strictly entertainment value, then you would welcome these additions!

But games aren't made for strict entertainment value. Everything we do, including games, must have at least somewhat of a challenge, choices and consequences to those actions then you find out how you deal with it as you grow as a person within the game. Some games have helped me understand things in real life because of the challenges, dialogue, choices and outcomes (good or bad). People don't necessarily use games as a way of keeping on challenging themselves in real life. I am merely stating that it is good to have choices that have an effect on you in every aspect of what it is you choose to do in the world so in a way, it makes you grow more because you keep that aspect in your life through everything you do. Everything begins with choice. Yes, that also means entertainment in this case mmorpgs in this case SWTOR.
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Sarfux
05.16.2014 , 01:24 PM | #4969
Quote: Originally Posted by Vhaegrant View Post
Aside from story (which is a Class thing), the biggest choice you face with your character is the role you play (DPS, Tank, Heal), and if you are a subscriber you can change that freely nearly any time you want.

So taking your argument to its logical conclusion players should not be able to swap out of their specialisation once they have started placing training points in it?
Please, don't do that stuff to me. To be frank, I'm really sick of a lot of it. Where people say something on this forum then words get put into that posters mouth when they didn't say or mean that, the post gets misunderstood by the receiver, then they begin to get all defensive and say something different and spin it around to fit their situation. Just please, stop. What you said is not what I'm saying at all. We are talking about the Advanced Class changing, not anything else. Stay on topic please. Thank you.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Vhaegrant
05.16.2014 , 01:27 PM | #4970
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
Not sure why it is so hard to comprehend. You have at least 3 other posts in this very thread stating you are ok with AC swapping, AS LONG AS they implement more important things first.
So, you're anti-AC swapping and don't want to see it in the game ever.
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