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GTN Buy Orders - Now Is The Time

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GTN Buy Orders - Now Is The Time

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trancejeremy
05.04.2014 , 08:04 PM | #41
The only MMORPG I've played that had them was Atlantica Online. And that was for your personal store. You could sell stuff in it, or buy stuff (by listing the price you wanted to buy for that item).

Most people still used the normal market. That would list things forever, but the price would constantly automatically drop if it didn't sell.

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caronome
05.05.2014 , 03:00 AM | #42
I strongly support buy orders but ofc am not hopeful they will ever happen.

"find a crafter" is not really an answer. For one thing, a lot of items I think I would want a buy order for are "commodities." E.g. put up a buy order for Turadim at XXXX, Mk-9 Components at YYYY, Aluminum at ZZZ with the occasional KDY Construction kit. Or you can just place a buy order at 500,000 for a new mount and when the prices drop to that point it is bought for you even if you are offline.

I don't buy the rich get richer objection. Right now, someone unconstrained by credits (rich) can manually scan the market for deals and buy what he wants. Someone willing to devote 65 million credits could buy up the first 1,000 MK-9 kits they saw below 65,000. (In spite of its appearance in MMO forums, cornering a market in MMOs tends to be harder and rarer than the public thinks. Just like in real life.)

I semi-jokingly say the current system favors new parents. I.e., they are going to be up at 3 am anyway so can scan the GTN for good deals.

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The current system rewards bot-like behavior, log in and scan the GTN for the items on "your list" and buy them. The person who scans the GTN 18 times a day will buy for lower prices than some causal who does it 4 times a day.

Should gameplay reward this behavior? YMMV. IMO, deciding on how much and what price Aluminum I want to buy is an interesting decision. Scanning the GTN several times a day is not interesting gameplay; it's quite rote.

There are many ways buy orders could be implemented. The buy orders don't even have to be visible. I could have a buy order in for Aluminum at 250 and some new player could try to sell some for 100. The GTN could prevent him from listing below 250 or accept the listing and then automatically sell it to me for 100 or 250 or 175.

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Elfa
05.14.2014 , 11:23 AM | #43
My idea for buy orders was very simple but people didn't understand.

You would only be able to put up a couple buy orders at a time and for no more than 99 of a stack-able item and only 1 of non-stack-able per buy order.

It's not so people can go crazy and corner the market on crap.
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Alec_Fortescue
05.14.2014 , 11:26 AM | #44
I'd like the buy orders. Same thing as spamming chat except that you're not spamming the chat and your message is there for a long time.
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dipstik
05.14.2014 , 12:55 PM | #45
we are already able to inspect the schematics of people nearby. perhaps some kind of database to be able to find people on the server able to craft an item, and the ability to send them mail for a request.

or a /say system that sends a mass whisper to those with the schematic

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Daekarus
05.14.2014 , 01:19 PM | #46
I would love love love to see buy orders available. It would make the GTN more useful for low-volume items. As it is, inflation and the subsequent price gouging has rendered the GTN practically useless during the levelling process. Practically anything would be a help.

I think I need to clarify how this would work in my head - it wouldn't be automated, it would be a WTB listing that people could search out and fill. It would NOT (under any circumstances) be a mechanism to automatically buy an item once it reaches a certain price point.

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Elfa
05.14.2014 , 04:01 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Daekarus View Post
I would love love love to see buy orders available. It would make the GTN more useful for low-volume items. As it is, inflation and the subsequent price gouging has rendered the GTN practically useless during the levelling process. Practically anything would be a help.

I think I need to clarify how this would work in my head - it wouldn't be automated, it would be a WTB listing that people could search out and fill. It would NOT (under any circumstances) be a mechanism to automatically buy an item once it reaches a certain price point.
Exactly, never was auto purchasing part of my vision for buy orders.
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naldoran
05.14.2014 , 04:13 PM | #48
One thing which buy orders do is tend to provide long-term market stability; it's hard for the price of an item to stabilize when orders are up for two days at a time, and you can't sell portions of a stack, leading to lots of redundant item listings of one unit each.

Having buy / sell orders in terms of unit prices would lead to a more competitive and interesting market, especially for crafting commodities or common unlocks like ops passes. Extending the time to something more reasonable like a month would be fantastic.

My dream of course would be to simply steal EVE online's market interface / system, but swtor's economy is too small & simplistic to need something like that.
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BlackflameSeven
05.15.2014 , 07:22 AM | #49
The idea of being able to post a request for an item appeals. But as there seems to be a lot of paranoia around suggesting this, I'd add that any item bought via a buy order becomes instantly bound. (Ok, maybe there needs to be a limit on moving to an alt, but if you are sensible on your orders, it shouldn't matter.)

So if my scoundrel needs a barrel, I place an order for it at the price I want to offer, an armstech makes it, fulfills my order, I have my barrel, they have their cash, and I cant affect anyone else. Even bind mats etc so you are never placing a buy order because you want to affect other people, you place it because you need something, and you will use it. No manipulation, just hundred of people with unrealistic hopes to buy BIS items for 50 crs... But with a quick sort to show the highest offer, who cares if there's thousands of fools?

Oh, and a clever system would link buy and sell, so if someone isn't paying attention, and places something for sale at a price lower than a buy order, it connects, sells/buys and both are happy - not sure who would win about the price gap in that case?

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Daekarus
05.15.2014 , 07:31 AM | #50
I agree with everything except the automatic link between buy and sell orders. That is just asking for abuse.