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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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LordArtemis
05.14.2014 , 02:57 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
Completion is overrated. If I don't like a certain kind of content, I'm not playing it. Doesn't matter if I miss out on parts of the game or not. In my case that would be both operations AND hardcore PvP *shrugs*
If you were ever curious, I would recommend you give it a whirl in this game. It is ridiculously easy in this game, especially if you are undergeared.

Back when I tried it out some kind of bolster glitch made me a god. I was a Sorcerer and could not be killed. It was really silly. Brand new to PVP here and I dominated....had screenshots to prove it. I mean, I am a reasonably seasoned PVP player, but I have never dominated in a game like that on my first day at bat.

Havent played PVP in this game since. Ill stick to DAoC and WoT for now.

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Master-Nala
05.14.2014 , 02:58 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Actually, MOST of their players play multiple aspects of the game, including PvP, FPs and crafting. It's silly to claim PvP is bigger, we have no way to measure that and they do...but I can very confidently say that MOST players do both PvP and PvE.
Agreed 100%.
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05.14.2014 , 02:58 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
That doesn't mean that they are bad and that developers should ignore these parts of the game, by the way. But it's more than alright to just not play certain parts of the game.
Oh I agree it is. I know people who only PvE or only PvP or only GSF now too...personally, I feel as though they're missing so much that the game has to offer beyond the little thing they enjoy, but I don't think they're bad people...I just wish they could find the enjoyment I do in all 3.
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MillionsKNives
05.14.2014 , 03:00 PM | #124
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I represent the majority of players named LordArtemis.

That is all.
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Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I see the game as having 3 elements - PvE, GSF and PvP...so yes. He's skipping over half the games action oriented content.
Categorically speaking, sure, but based on the actual amount of content I'm not even sure if Warzones and GSF combined would make up even 10% of the game's content. There's like, 10 warzone maps, and 3 GSF maps?

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TUXs
05.14.2014 , 03:00 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Dokar View Post
just because you see it as half others only see it as a minor mini game they have no desire to take part in
Just because they see it as a bigger part of the game than it is, doesn't make it so. EVERYTHING at 55 is a mini game. PvE is a mini game, PvP is a mini game and GSF is a mini game lol.
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Wylf
05.14.2014 , 03:01 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Oh I agree it is. I know people who only PvE or only PvP or only GSF now too...personally, I feel as though they're missing so much that the game has to offer beyond the little thing they enjoy, but I don't think they're bad people...I just wish they could find the enjoyment I do in all 3.
People like different things. Always has been this way, always will be. I personally enjoy the leveling process in MMOs. Like, once a character of mine hits the highest level I quickly lose interest in them in terms of gameplay and start a new character... and only ever use the highlevel chars for occasional dungeons and Roleplay.
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TUXs
05.14.2014 , 03:11 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by MillionsKNives View Post
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn9a2C8yZEw]Categorically speaking, sure, but based on the actual amount of content I'm not even sure if Warzones and GSF combined would make up even 10% of the game's content. There's like, 10 warzone maps, and 3 GSF maps?
I would agree...

But I don't think you can quantify it like that because of the nature of the activities...PvE NEEDS 10x's the number of things to do because it's all scripted and static content, whereas PvP is different every time. Variety is needed to keep PvE 'fresh' but every PvP or GSF match is unique.

As far as time to complete things - a full Voidstar PvP match takes longer than a full NiM EV run. I ran the TFB/SnV weekly on Sunday in about 25 min total for both.

So...I still classify it as 3 end game categories to participate in.
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TUXs
05.14.2014 , 03:14 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
People like different things. Always has been this way, always will be. I personally enjoy the leveling process in MMOs. Like, once a character of mine hits the highest level I quickly lose interest in them in terms of gameplay and start a new character... and only ever use the highlevel chars for occasional dungeons and Roleplay.
I find it odd you would say that...I have just the opposite problem. I could never finish single player games because they'd just end...I hated that. SWG was my 1st MMO and it blew me away when I realized that I could continue playing my toon after maxing his skills (then leveling him with CU/NGE). Probably part of the reason I don't have many alts here...I like playing my max gear/level character far more than anything else. /shrug
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Wylf
05.14.2014 , 03:16 PM | #129
At this point in time I have 13 characters on the Progenitor alone
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05.14.2014 , 03:19 PM | #130