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'Wings of the Architect' headed to the Cartel Market?

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'Wings of the Architect' headed to the Cartel Market?
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Khevar
05.14.2014 , 02:46 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Akushii View Post
PvP rewards should have been something very PvP related. Some rewards that I would have loved to have seen: An exclusive color crystal, armor set/weapon/hat that are PvP themed (not a colored version of Obroan/Oriconian/Dread Forged/Brutalizer), a mount somewhat related to Huttball or Ancient Hypergate, reusable WZ medpacs and reusuable WZ medpacs, exclusive emote/action etc. Basically something very related to the swtor game for PvP and NOT something widely recognized in the Star Wars community like Rancors.
I think this is an excellent point, and a great idea for possible future rewards.

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05.14.2014 , 02:47 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
I think this is an excellent point, and a great idea for possible future rewards.
Until Timmy gets mad cause PvPers get something he's been asking for.
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05.14.2014 , 02:54 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
Until Timmy gets mad cause PvPers get something he's been asking for.
While I'm pretty sure you're just trying to be silly, the fact of the matter is, Akushii makes a really good point.

Something specifically PvP-themed, that directly relates to PvP, or is of benefit to someone that does PvP, would make a really good "Season X PvP Reward."

Don't you think?

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robertthebard
05.14.2014 , 04:47 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Dawginole View Post
Not really. The highest tier of PvP players are easily more skilled than the highest tier of pinata beaters in OPs.
er, what? More skilled at getting nerfs thrown around, maybe? If, as you claim, these guys and gals were all that good, then no game dev ever would have to throw out nerfs that adversely affect PvE to cater to them. Like I said previously, probably somewhere else, I'm sure that Darth Malgus didn't come here complaining that I used Saber Ward and Enraged Defense to outlast him when he one shotted the rest of my group, and I not only survived that attack, but managed to kill him. However, there was this gem from last night: Informative PvP topic that was so good, the OP had to delete the first post due to the shame heaped on him. Sorry, maybe the PvP crowd should start policing their own if they don't want to be lumped into a specific category. In the meantime, since every PvP post I've read on the general forum follows this guy's example, short of deleting the topic post, that is, I'm not buying it.

Since I've been involved in more than one MMO's forums, I can tell you, he's not a unique situation, or some anomaly, but pretty much par for the course. I don't even dislike PvP, other than the majority of what's available here, WZs and griefers that hang out at lowbie quest zones, flagged so they can run into AoEs of lowbies to get their "PvP" on. When the 55s show up, you'd swear they had speed hacks, they got back to one of their guard posts so fast. That's not unique to here, although the mechanic is. I've spent days chasing griefers out of lowbie quest zones in more than one MMO. Takes a lot of skill at 55 to kill somebody on a lvl 20 though, so I suppose you're right.

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05.14.2014 , 05:01 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
While I'm pretty sure you're just trying to be silly, the fact of the matter is, Akushii makes a really good point.

Something specifically PvP-themed, that directly relates to PvP, or is of benefit to someone that does PvP, would make a really good "Season X PvP Reward."

Don't you think?
Oh, don't me wrong. I agree completely that PvP rewards should be useful in PvP. I'm just pointing out the obvious outcome if the reward is something someone here was really wanting but is exclusive to pvp.
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05.14.2014 , 07:44 PM | #206
All the exclusive mounts are nice and all but what we really need is an Aiwha mount, with frickin' lasers attached to their heads.
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05.14.2014 , 08:33 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
The NiM that Kephass drops in EC is by far my favorite speeder in game. To ME, it IS on par with any other mount.

But your reasoning is just excuse making Darth...let the character drop whatever "exclusive" skin they want in Ops, but to limit the model they used for that mount is just silly. "Jetpacks" aren't exclusive to Brontes and "Tanks" aren't exclusive to one character either. Release similar models on the CM and all is fair imo.

AlienEyeTX is right, they're treating PvE different than PvP with this whole "exclusive" bunk.
And your solution would still be treating PvE different from PvP, because the PvE skins will be around for as long as the game is active, and the PvP skins are limited time availability. So to be really fair, they need to re-offer the Season 1 PvP skin, as well as re-use the PvE models for the CM.

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Dawginole
05.15.2014 , 01:01 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Dawginole View Post
The highest tier of PvP players are easily more skilled than the highest tier of pinata beaters in OPs.
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
er, what? More skilled at getting nerfs thrown around, maybe? If, as you claim, these guys and gals were all that good, then no game dev ever would have to throw out nerfs that adversely affect PvE to cater to them. Like I said previously, probably somewhere else, I'm sure that Darth Malgus didn't come here complaining that I used Saber Ward and Enraged Defense to outlast him when he one shotted the rest of my group, and I not only survived that attack, but managed to kill him. However, there was this gem from last night: Informative PvP topic that was so good, the OP had to delete the first post due to the shame heaped on him. Sorry, maybe the PvP crowd should start policing their own if they don't want to be lumped into a specific category. In the meantime, since every PvP post I've read on the general forum follows this guy's example, short of deleting the topic post, that is, I'm not buying it.

Since I've been involved in more than one MMO's forums, I can tell you, he's not a unique situation, or some anomaly, but pretty much par for the course. I don't even dislike PvP, other than the majority of what's available here, WZs and griefers that hang out at lowbie quest zones, flagged so they can run into AoEs of lowbies to get their "PvP" on. When the 55s show up, you'd swear they had speed hacks, they got back to one of their guard posts so fast. That's not unique to here, although the mechanic is. I've spent days chasing griefers out of lowbie quest zones in more than one MMO. Takes a lot of skill at 55 to kill somebody on a lvl 20 though, so I suppose you're right.
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05.15.2014 , 01:17 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by idnewton View Post
Yes, it does a good job of that... Thanks for giving us a clear picture of how little you care about PvP.

Putting Rancors on the CM is a mistake. Sooner or later, you will realize that. There should only be two Rancor mounts ingame. One from PvP, and one from NiM DP (as planned).
PVPers really did not need Eric's comment regarding our dreadful mount to know how little they care about PVP. The mount in itself sums up what they think of PVPers....bunch of morons who love shiny crap to parade around on.

You do not recall his Q&A recently?

Nogate?

Add to that the removal of ranked 8s, you do not fix what is not broke.

The lack of a group finder queue system to select warzone style.

Next to no new warzones, and the 2 we did get are the worse ones.

No valor or expertise gating for ranked, in effect making a total mockery of the whole system.

The half assed garbage that is bolster.

We all know cross server is never coming.

The comment where they believe that PVPers do not need much new content, we can make our own as we are happy just to kill things.

Need I go on?

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05.15.2014 , 01:22 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Dawginole View Post
WoW was the first MMO, and therefore the greatest. Hook. Line. Sinker.
Showing your age there.

WoW is in no way, shape or form the 1st MMO.