Star Wars Fans "OFFICIALLY" discredit Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic

STAR WARS: The Old Republic
Star Wars Fans "OFFICIALLY" discredit Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Darth_Wicked

05.14.2014 , 01:30 PM \| #101	Quote
As I've stated several times in the past, I honestly don't care. Except for the people working at Wookieepedia who - I'm pretty sure - poured their hearts, minds and souls into trying to establish a cohesive continuity from the mess that the SW universe is, no one else ever cared. Plus... Conan Antonio Motti. Stewjon. Skywalker wine.

Beniboybling

05.14.2014 , 01:32 PM \| #102	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus You mean like how SWTOR can't really affect the movies in any appreciable way so its impact on the SW universe is basically null, whether its canon or not? Someone getting all ruffled up about how SWTOR is in canon limbo really has too much time on their hands and honestly, its probably not good to be stressed out about it. Well obviously considering the movies have already been made. But has the Old Republic era effected past and future EU works, including The Clone Wars? Yes. And does this work vice versa? Yes. And is it totally cool that SWTOR is an event that happened in one big history? Definitely. Though I agree with the sentiment that this is nothing to fuss about. Lucasfilm has explicitly stated that they are not discarding EU material, even if it isn't canon that doesn't mean it will be undermined. That said if it was canon it would be a wonderful thing, because it opens up oppurtunities for SWTOR to be integrated into future works more deeply.
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LtGeneralGezlin

05.14.2014 , 01:33 PM \| #103	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs LOL! Best reaction by far. It's all "fiction" folks. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, TUXs!?!?!?! THE DISNEY-EU REMOVAL TEAM IS GOING TO BREAK DOWN MY DOOR AND BURST INTO MY HOME, WEARING STORMTROOPER ARMOR WITH MICKEY EARS, AND FLAMETHROWERS AND BURN ALL MY EXPANDED UNIVERSE ITEMS! /s
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ZahirS

05.14.2014 , 01:36 PM \| #104	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Well obviously considering the movies have already been made. But has the Old Republic era effected past and future EU works, including The Clone Wars? Yes. And does this work vice versa? Yes. And is it totally cool that SWTOR is an event that happened in one big history? Definitely. Though I agree with the sentiment that this is nothing to fuss about. Lucasfilm has explicitly stated that they are not discarding EU material, even if it isn't canon that doesn't mean it will be undermined. That said if it was canon it would be a wonderful thing, because it opens up oppurtunities for SWTOR to be integrated into future works more deeply. First this is wrong, EU is discarded completely as they stated "Legends". Second SWTOR is canon because there is mention of it in the movies acknowledging the existence of Old Republic Era prior to the movies, its in Episode IV a New Hope, Episode 2 Attack of Clones and so on. So No, SWTOR is canon because Disney acknowledge its exitence evidently in many posts recently.

Beniboybling

05.14.2014 , 01:43 PM \| #105	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS First this is wrong, EU is discarded completely as they stated "Legends". Second SWTOR is canon because there is mention of it in the movies acknowledging the existence of Old Republic Era prior to the movies, its in Episode IV a New Hope, Episode 2 Attack of Clones and so on. So No, SWTOR is canon because Disney acknowledge its exitence evidently in many posts recently. That is most certainly not the case: While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s. If it were discarded completely it wouldn't exist, but it does as Legends, and the fact that these "Legends" may and already have been incoporated into future works totally invalidates the notion they are being discarded on both a semantic and pratical level. I'm afraid this claim just doesn't make sense in light of what is happening. Still, if you want to believe that, fine, it isn't going to change what Disney/Lucasfilm is doing. As far as we know, it doesn't work like that, only those specific elements exist, this doesn't necessarily mean everything attached to them exists, especially considering that apparently KOTOR and KOTOR II are non-canon. I'm going to wait for an official statement, it may be that they will consider it ongoing Legends content, supervised by them but still subject to revision if need be, I'm not sure they are prepared to say that "this happened and can never be overwritten." However they may also never say anything, though in that case we must assume its non-canon.
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DarkDisturbed

05.14.2014 , 01:45 PM \| #106	Quote
Welcome to like 2 weeks ago?
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ZahirS

05.14.2014 , 01:47 PM \| #107	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling That is most certainly not the case: While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s. If it were discarded completely it wouldn't exist, but it does as Legends, and the fact that these "Legends" may and already have been incoporated into future works totally invalidates the notion they are being discarded on both a semantic and pratical level. I'm afraid this claim just doesn't make sense in light of what is happening. Still, if you want to believe that, fine, it isn't going to change what Disney/Lucasfilm is doing. As far as we know, it doesn't work like that, only those specific elements exist, this doesn't necessarily mean everything attached to them exists, especially considering that apparently KOTOR and KOTOR II are non-canon. I'm going to wait for an official statement, it may be that they will consider it ongoing Legends content, supervised by them but still subject to revision if need be, I'm not sure they are prepared to say that "this happened and can never be overwritten." However they may also never say anything, though in that case we must assume its non-canon. You really dont get Disney: By saying EU is gone, we are re-writting the story based on a new trilogy.....means exactly that. Saying Inquisitor was taken from EU, mightaswell say Thrawn will make a cameo in the films...chiss maybe but no Thrawn see the difference? Hint: Thrawn is GONE thankfully.

Khevar

05.14.2014 , 01:51 PM \| #108	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS Hint: Thrawn is GONE thankfully. Why thankfully?

TUXs

05.14.2014 , 01:53 PM \| #109	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LtGeneralGezlin DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND, TUXs!?!?!?! THE DISNEY-EU REMOVAL TEAM IS GOING TO BREAK DOWN MY DOOR AND BURST INTO MY HOME, WEARING STORMTROOPER ARMOR WITH MICKEY EARS, AND FLAMETHROWERS AND BURN ALL MY EXPANDED UNIVERSE ITEMS! /s Wait...is this really true? Do you think they really will? I read EU crap to my kids every night while they were little...my house could be featured on Hoarders with the collection of Star Wars books I have...it's like a hydrogen filled Hindenburg if they burn my books...
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LordArtemis

05.14.2014 , 01:57 PM \| #110	Quote
I can understand the concerns of fans of this game and the EU in general. I for one am happy that it is no longer considered canon in any way shape or form....that tosses out some of the ridiculous EU nonsense that came out over the years...and tosses out "light side Sith" with it. That makes me reasonably gleeful. I still like this game, regardless where it stands.
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