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Star Wars Fans "OFFICIALLY" discredit Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Star Wars Fans "OFFICIALLY" discredit Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic
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DarthTHC
05.14.2014 , 10:31 AM | #41
Much ado about nothing.

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ikinai
05.14.2014 , 10:33 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Aside from the fact that you are still failing to understand Wookieepedia's stance on the matter, what even is your point here? Why should anyone care? Wookieepedia will remain a go-to source on information on the Star Wars universe.

The fact that an information site is acknowledging the facts of continuity does not change that.
Continuity is bad, we prefer disjointed information that lacks logic.
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Fantazm
05.14.2014 , 10:33 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
some stuff
people occasionally give you a hard time around here but you're bang on there as far as I'm concerned.

Wookieepedia remains what it always was; a useful open wiki with loads of stuff about SW on it.

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HiddenPalm
05.14.2014 , 10:35 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
The point is pointless.. that is the point.

Some alleged fansite (which is really nothing more then an open wiki) that can be modified, distorted and destroyed by fans if that's what they want to do.... IS NOT in any way relevant to my enjoyment of actually playing the game. I don't give a crap what some fan sites policy on IP is... it's not relevant to the actual IP itself.

Lore dictators need to let it go IMO.



1) The IP is owned by Disney. Disney can do anything with it that they want to do. They can even legally file to injunct and prohibit a fan site from even using said IP at any time. And you can't do squat about it. The sooner people get with reality here.. the better your QoL in real life will be as far as SWTOR goes.

2) Fans are not legally entitled to dictate policy as to what is or is not canon in anyones IP.

3) The absurdity here is fans of the SW IP thinking they have any actual say in what is or is-not canon... OR that it even matters.
Need more clarity with your points. Are you saying Wookieepedia is owned by Disney? Wikipedia claims to be the owner of that website, and Wookieepedia claims to be fan controlled. Are you saying Wookieepedia can't legally dictate canon? And are you saying Wookieepedia doesn't have say or that it matters? And are you calling Wookieepedia a lore tyrant that needs to let it go?
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Beniboybling
05.14.2014 , 10:37 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by HiddenPalm View Post
Need more clarity with your points. Are you saying Wookieepedia is owned by Disney? Wikipedia claims to be the owner of that website, and Wookieepedia claims to be fan controlled. Are you saying Wookieepedia can't legally dictate canon? And are you saying Wookieepedia doesn't have say or that it matters? And are you calling Wookieepedia a lore tyrant that needs to let it go?
Nobody here is even going to consider entering your bat crazy world of tin foil pal.

But you might find this helpful.

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DarthDymond
05.14.2014 , 10:38 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by HiddenPalm View Post
Wookieepedia taking this stance that is not the stance of the fans, makes it lose its legitimacy as a fan site - in my opinion. <-------- That is the point of this thread, and I am curious as to how the fans feel about Wookiepedia's stance. Not if we agree with what is happening to the canon, but with how the fans are being represented. Do you feel like Wookiepedia is representing you the fan? Because it poses itself as it does.

They appear to be simply regurgitating the views of corporates under their own context and not the fans, especially the SWTOR community. Which means, we don't really have a fan site anymore. SWTOR gamers laugh at this, calling them nerds which shows the true perspective of the fans and our community. I am pointing out how we now don't have a site we can trust as representing the fan perspective and how Wookieepedia has lost legitimacy in our eyes.
"The Fans" do not have a unified consensus, some individual fans are happy the EU is being made non-canon, others are upset, and others are indifferent. Claiming that the collective have a single view is nothing more than rhetoric to try to inflate your own view.

And even if the fans did, overall, dislike the Legends/Canon split... that split still happened. Wookieepedia would be remiss if they didn't acknowledge that it happened and reflect it in their articles, the same way they would have been remiss in not including articles on characters from the Holiday Special just because no one likes that. Some fans were outraged when Chewie died in Vector Prime, doesn't mean that Wookieepedia should have just ignored that it happened.

A wiki, including a fan-site wiki, is supposed to be a repository of information/facts (in this case "facts" about a fictional universe, but even so) - leaving out a bit of relevant information just because they don't like it doesn't make it a better fan site, it makes it a worse wiki. Omitting information would be going against everything that site is supposed to be.
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Irongut
05.14.2014 , 10:38 AM | #47
I fail to understand why so many "the sky is falling" threads are being posted about this.

Lucas never counted anything except the 6 films (and maybe Clone Wars) as canon. He could, and did, change things at whim. Even things that had already been in his films for 20 years and so were definitely canon.

Disney is a new owner and have no history of looking after the continuity of a property like Star Wars. They hired J.J. "Lens Flare" Abrams. He's the king of crappy reboots with no plot, terrible acting, lots of explosions and over use of lens flare. Have you seen the abomination that is his Star Trek? Of course they are going to make a reboot. We'll be lucky if they don't **** all over the existing films let alone obscure books and computer games that no Disney executive has ever heard of.

At the end of the day nothing has really changed. You can continue to play Star Wars computer games and read the books safe in the knowledge that you never mattered a jot to Lucas and you still don't to Disney.
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LegoUniverseBC
05.14.2014 , 10:39 AM | #48
Who cares?
I consider The Old Republic canon and that's all that matters. Since it doesn't interfere with the movies and is still running.

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DarthTHC
05.14.2014 , 10:41 AM | #49
I find entertainment in fans arguing about what's canon, what's not canon, what fan sites are doing, etc.

I find less entertainment in that then I find in enjoying the stories... but it's still entertainment.

Why do you all allow yourselves to get wrapped around the axle like that? The only people who ever need to care what is canon or isn't canon are the professional writers hired to produce more Star Wars story, and they are going to have the support of Disney to help them understand what is and is not canon.

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Pagy
05.14.2014 , 10:42 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by HiddenPalm View Post
Need more clarity with your points. Are you saying Wookieepedia is owned by Disney? Wikipedia claims to be the owner of that website, and Wookieepedia claims to be fan controlled. Are you saying Wookieepedia can't legally dictate canon? And are you saying Wookieepedia doesn't have say or that it matters? And are you calling Wookieepedia a lore tyrant that needs to let it go?
wookiepedia is a fan-moderated resource.

if they wish to align with the actual owners of the content (Disney) then that is their right. they control the mission statement of the site, and if fans wish to contribute relevant content associated with that mission, then they are free to do so.

Try to add star wars articles to asoiaf wiki and see what happens...