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Swtor has nothing to fear from Wildstar!

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Swtor has nothing to fear from Wildstar!

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JolietJerry
05.13.2014 , 10:55 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by xeikonburns View Post
My girlfriend and I gave wildstar a chance this weekend and after about 3 or 4 hours of playing it, we glanced at each other and both of us simultaneously said something like "meehhhh, no ..."

While the mechanics beeing nice and fast paced with the telegraph system, the game in my opinion lacks an immense amount of immersion without the cutscenes i got used to while playing TOR.

The major point which turned both of us in favor against it, is the style of characters, colors and the overall look and feel.
In comparison to the "Reduced Comic"-Style of TOR, Wildstars' Comic-Style is so overdone, to quote my girlfriend "This whole game looks like on a LSD Trip". Everything seems to be colored by a lunatic kid with neon crayons
With TOR's Charakter models already beeing something like all-genetically-enhanced superhumans / superaliens, the models of wildstar are totally out of control, super wide shoulders combined with a wasp like waist on a regular human male, simply akward.

The other point was the strange quest system with those oldskool quests texts and the lack of decisions (yeah, i do it <-> Forget it!). While the path quests were quite nice with all the jumping as explorer, the rest of the quest were again like "go there, bring that", and even as TOR follows the same pattern i feel a lot more involved with all those cutscenes.

The last point was the very laggy performance of the game, not fps wise but having issues with micro lags/hangers. Despite the game only beeing in open beta, overall graphics performance was quite good with my machine constantly running it with around 70-80 fps, but the those micro lags/hangers were akward (and i never ever had something similar in TOR since beta).

So after an overall playtime of around 6 hours we both were happy to fire up TOR
This almost exactly matches my experience.

SWTOR is the first MMO I've really played. After building a PC this winter I gave WoW a test drive, got in on an ESO beta weekend, and finally tried SWTOR F2P. I didn't hate WoW or ESO (especially ESO since it definitely had that ES feel which I Iove) but neither of them hooked me like TOR did.

Wildstar did not feel immersive at all even though I'll admit to only playing it for about 4 hours. I'm very spoiled by TOR's cut scenes and it felt like a step backwards in that regard. I also felt the character design was too cartoonish and unoriginal while the world almost had too much going on in it. That probably would've become less jarring with more playtime though.

In the end there was nothing that made me feel I should keep playing WS or abandon SWTOR. I honestly don't understand much of the complaining about SWTOR. It's certainly not perfect but I love it and at times feel intimidated by how much I still need to do to max out my first character even though I'm at LVL 55. I truly don't get some of the whining and constant complaints that just need to be let go. THIS is KOTOR 3 and quite frankly I think it's awesome. I loved KOTOR 1 but stopped playing 2 before I finished since I hated some characters and thought it was too much of the same. A KOTOR 3 never would've been this huge, had this much playtime, or given you the chance to play with other ppl which is one of my favorite things about TOR. Nearly everyone I've grouped with has been helpful and made the game more enjoyable.

I really hope WS and ESO succeed, that WoW continues to succeed, and that people have a great time playing them. They just weren't for me right now. More choices is always better for gamers. I don't feel either poses a threat to SWTOR or the other way around. There are plenty of people to keep multiple MMOs going in this world. Not only that but in regards to SWTOR directly, it seems to be healthy based on profit returns (despite every thread on FB having some moron post, "Ppl still play this?" I'd say $150 mil in profit last year says yes they are) and there's a fantastic little marketing tool coming out in about a year called Star Wars: Episode VII that is sure to drum up more interest in TOR. If they are smart they're going to take advantage of that marketing blitz to push TOR at people who would maybe not have given it a chance otherwise.
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NeoIshamael
05.13.2014 , 10:59 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
I don't think it's shallow. If you spend 30+ hours a week staring at a computer screen it damn well look good. It's the same reason I could never play WoW, it just looked too cartoony to me. For me it was never about whether the gameplay was good or not. I want both gameplay and design to be good. But what's good for me isn't necessarily good for another so it's still a personal thing. Wild Star doesn't do it for me either so I'm not even going to do the beta.
Although I do not mind the graphics of Wildstar, the leveling process does not have the "hook" for me. I love the combat system and the challenging nature of even trash mobs (the telegraphs and a nice dynamic). However, I cannot hold my interest. I remember leveling my guardian. I wanted to know what would happen next. This is not the case in Wildstar.

I will still try it for a month. I just do not see myself being as dedicated as I was in SWTOR.

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sandisrd
05.13.2014 , 11:00 AM | #203
You can say whatever you want, but I'll only continue to play SWTOR, tried both ESO and Wildstar, it's just was a good reminder how SWTOR actually is really good...
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keysmachine
05.13.2014 , 11:02 AM | #204
I was really trying to love Wildstar.

But something about the way they display information and the hectic nature of questing with everything being everywhere just kind turned me off to the game.

in fact it made me resub to swtor and play the secret world again. weird how a game made me play two games I stopped playing because I thought it was that bad.

EDIT: of course wildstar is the jesus mmo to destroy all mmo's much like GW2 used to be heralded before it released.

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NeoIshamael
05.13.2014 , 11:04 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by keysmachine View Post
I was really trying to love Wildstar.

But something about the way they display information and the hectic nature of questing with everything being everywhere just kind turned me off to the game.

in fact it made me resub to swtor and play the secret world again. weird how a game made me play two games I stopped playing because I thought it was that bad.
It did not make me resub but the UI does not appeal to me. Wildstar does have addons to negate this but I wonder how many people actually use addons.

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Alec_Fortescue
05.13.2014 , 11:04 AM | #206
They spend millions on them mmos and they turn up not to be as successful as TOR and yet tor was not successful enough to remain a sub game and class stories had to be ditched.

Help me, I am confused.

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illgot
05.13.2014 , 11:07 AM | #207
SWTOR has nothing to fear from Wildstar

Reddit:

1,101 discovering Nexus (Wildstar)

211 players online now (SWTOR)

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Infernixx
05.13.2014 , 11:10 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
SWTOR has nothing to fear from Wildstar

Reddit:

1,101 discovering Nexus (Wildstar)

211 players online now (SWTOR)
Okay.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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keysmachine
05.13.2014 , 11:11 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
SWTOR has nothing to fear from Wildstar

Reddit:

1,101 discovering Nexus (Wildstar)

211 players online now (SWTOR)
so we've upgraded from using XFIRE as an indicator of game health to REDDIT?

lmao.

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LadyKulvax
05.13.2014 , 11:24 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by keysmachine View Post
so we've upgraded from using XFIRE as an indicator of game health to REDDIT?

lmao.
This.^ LOL
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