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[BEG] Devs, please don't bolster SM OPS! ...

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BrintoSFJ
05.13.2014 , 08:22 AM | #61
Maybe they can do it like this? :-
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=740652

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KyaniteD
05.13.2014 , 08:33 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I wouldn't say its a non-issue, thats a bit too dismissive. The concerns are understandable from some, but again I think what benefits the game has to take precedence, even if it is difficult for a few folks to swallow.
I'm not sure this:

Quote: Originally Posted by Adaliaya View Post
I can still foresee people running with Tython gear to avoid repairs and justify ninja-needs
and this:

Quote: Originally Posted by Urantia View Post
Race to lvl 15, head to Kuat until lvl 55, and then right into SM ops. So from starter planet gear directly to 78s is how it will be now?
or this:

Quote: Originally Posted by thewitchdoctor View Post
I think its obvious that with each TFP you run, your chances of seeing incredibly dumb group-behaviour increases (please see GF thread for examples). The TFPs, as intended, are role-neutral, which, consequently, means that a fair number of people aren't learning their roles.

It goes without saying that someone is going to go from 15-54 KDY right into 50-55 bolstered ops. A healer who hasn't had to learn to cleanse. A DPS who hasn't learned to interupt. A tank who hasn't learned to manage and direct a fight.
will actually benefit the game.
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05.13.2014 , 08:36 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
no, because normal raids also dropped better gear...

however. before raid finder I could easily find pugs on my server, both for regular stuff, as well as gold DKP runs. after raid finder - those are few and far inbetween (it was part of the reason I stopped trying to play, no matter how much I missed my characters). didn't happen nearly as often. after all.... why actualy make an effort for somewhat better gear, let alone pay gold for it, when you can just do nearly mindless groupfinder stuff?

but like I said, as long as bioware keeps actual mechanics of the fights the same as what you get on manual zone in - shouldn't be so bad.
Get a better WoW Server, Mal'Ganis was always popping with Pugs.
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05.13.2014 , 08:37 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
I'm not sure this:



and this:



or this:



will actually benefit the game.
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Jeweledleah
05.13.2014 , 08:42 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
Get a better WoW Server, Mal'Ganis was always popping with Pugs.
ewww, pvp server. no thank you (not to mention character transfer fees, and no, I'm not rolling new characters, the reason I keep coming back every once i na while, is becasue I miss playing my existing characters, rerolling is just not the same, no matter how fast the leveling is)

plus Tyralion used to be a damn good server, makes you wonder why the hell it virtually died the way it did.

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thewitchdoctor
05.13.2014 , 08:54 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
I'm not sure this ... [various quotes] ... will actually benefit the game.
While I am pretty sure there will be many, many entries into the 'GF Thread' following bolstered SM ops on the live servers, if:

1) It is temporary, perhaps 'til the level cap rise; and
2) It manages to bring a few extra people into the ops-won't-bite-you camp; then

I think, overall, it'll be OK.

But if it is a permanent feature? Not so sure.
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thewitchdoctor
05.13.2014 , 08:55 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
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Have you actually got something to add?
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KyaniteD
05.13.2014 , 09:00 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by thewitchdoctor View Post
While I am pretty sure there will be many, many entries into the 'GF Thread' following bolstered SM ops on the live servers, if:

1) It is temporary, perhaps 'til the level cap rise; and
2) It manages to bring a few extra people into the ops-won't-bite-you camp; then

I think, overall, it'll be OK.

But if it is a permanent feature? Not so sure.
Just last night I talked to someone from the ops-may-bite-me camp, and his reasons don't make it likely that this new addition will change his stance toward ops. He's afraid of grouping because he's afraid of getting yelled at for making mistakes. I don't see how a system that encourages people to go in unprepared will help. (Unless it's to make them feel better because others don't know better, either.)

I'm phrasing my opinion carefully as opinion. *I* just don't *see* the benefits. We will see how it plays out and I'll be happy to have all concerns be proven wrong and unfounded.
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05.13.2014 , 09:03 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by thewitchdoctor View Post
Have you actually got something to add?
Yes. But if you would like to know go back in the thread and look, I've already posted my opinion on the matter.
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thewitchdoctor
05.13.2014 , 09:07 AM | #70
And really, that's my worry too. But, hey, we'll see what happens.
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