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My suggestion for Galactic Strongholds....NO HOOKS

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My suggestion for Galactic Strongholds....NO HOOKS

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Sith-Viscera
05.09.2014 , 05:09 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I really can't stress how important I feel this one point is as to the overall appeal of the feature. If the feature uses hooks exclusively, like LotRO, I expect the reaction will be on the lukewarm side. I don't expect it to fall flat mind you...it will have some appeal, but overall it will not have the impact it could....

...but, if you use open moving decoration instead, like the XYZ control setup in SWG for interior decorating I think it will be a smash. I realize there may be some problems with this....

1) Unlike SWG it may not be possible to display models of items outside their intended use, like dropping and displaying armor pieces.

2) There may be items that folks would desire to decorate with, but lack in game models to do so.


But I feel I must stress, that even with these limitations, if present, having an open decorating system like SWG would be a huge draw for the feature, even if there are not that many decoration-ready items that one can drop in their house.

The point is, it would give the feature the maximum potential for future expansion, as you could add models to items and allow them to be dropped as decorations, add craftables, quest items, rewards, etc. The cartel market could come into play here for some of the best decorations available, not to mention the ability to purchase additional special rooms to expand your home.

Things like:

Entertainment room....cards, gambling, target dummies, dance floor....etc.
Garage....place to drop all of your vehicles
Trophy room....place to place defeated mob models, trophies, etc.

Just to name a few.

The possibilities for both profit for Bioware and players are endless IMO.
I always wanted on my ships a way to display special as well meaningful weapons of all kinds, hang'em up some how. Being up on the walls or a display case or both. So yes i loved to be able to display all the things he has mentions as well as weapons/sabers, which will probably fall under the same Category's he had spoke of.
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Lunafox
05.09.2014 , 05:10 PM | #12
I hope we'll be freely able to place things, like we could in SWG too. I spent hours and hours decorating my houses, and it never got old. Some of the best fun for me.
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Sith-Viscera
05.09.2014 , 05:18 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
I hope we'll be freely able to place things, like we could in SWG too. I spent hours and hours decorating my houses, and it never got old. Some of the best fun for me.
As long it doesn't use the XYZ control set up. That would suck Jawa Shorts. I recall trying to place pictures on the wall of my homes and because of the XYZ crap it always left some part of the wall showing threw the picture no matter what i did to fix it, it looked like crap.
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Andryah
05.09.2014 , 05:35 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
What ever the design choice they have, free placement or hooks, it is too late to change the way housing was developed.
^^ Exactly.

But.. the suggestion forum is alive and well.. and this is where these types of threads belong IMO.
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LordArtemis
05.12.2014 , 06:32 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
I hope we'll be freely able to place things, like we could in SWG too. I spent hours and hours decorating my houses, and it never got old. Some of the best fun for me.
Its my experience that it becomes its own minigame.

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Andryah
05.12.2014 , 06:33 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
Its my experience that it becomes its own minigame.
Heh.. only for people who can never quite get the couch positioned correctly in their living room in real life.
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Deewe
05.12.2014 , 06:54 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by trancejeremy View Post
Honestly, I think it will end up being almost entirely like LOTROs.

Hooks, and it being such a hassle to go/to from it that no one bothers after the novelty wears off.
Well to be honest the hook system is great (keep reading) for lazy (or clueless) players.
Fact is not everyone is a great house decorator, so such system would help them, a lot.

Now as with everything, the first time you try it you are a bit lost/worried/exited.
So you usually go the safe route or do it with experienced (enough) people.

Then you want to go further and try new things/places... experience or
get bored really fast and well go find out a new mate to pair with

So SWTOR without free item placement, whatever the awesomeness of the palaces, would look dull in the long term.
Remember how people liked how we could "furnish" garden in LotRo, to end not long after with the most decried system.

So regarding SWTOR past and Eric Musco honest quote:
Quote:
Placing of decorations may work a bit differently than some might expect and as such we would like to show you. To your own point, we have to manage expectations and I would hate to have me explain it since that won't really do it justice.
One can be worried it will end as the PvE and PvP space game i.e. a feature that could have been great, boring in the end and ruined by the lack of a core feature.


P.S.: I'd say if the hook system is already done, then keep it as some will find it useful, but add and advanced edition mode with free item placement and all the bell and whistles like roll and scale.

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LordArtemis
05.12.2014 , 10:11 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Heh.. only for people who can never quite get the couch positioned correctly in their living room in real life.
Hehe. You might be right....

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LordArtemis
05.21.2014 , 01:57 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Sith-Viscera View Post
As long it doesn't use the XYZ control set up. That would suck Jawa Shorts. I recall trying to place pictures on the wall of my homes and because of the XYZ crap it always left some part of the wall showing threw the picture no matter what i did to fix it, it looked like crap.
I think that is exactly the system they should use...but perhaps have SOME hooks for those folks that do not prefer that sort of thing.

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Lsya
05.21.2014 , 06:27 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by trancejeremy View Post
Honestly, I think it will end up being almost entirely like LOTROs.

Hooks, and it being such a hassle to go/to from it that no one bothers after the novelty wears off.
That's my fear as well.