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Because of the "easy mode" of SWTOR.

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Because of the "easy mode" of SWTOR.

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psandak
05.12.2014 , 11:03 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by wishihadaname View Post
OP, if you want a challenge, do some unusual things. For example: start off soloing tactical flashpoints and if that gets old try soloing 4man heroics. I don't know that it can be done on all classes, but i've managed all the tactical ops on my operative (stealth + cover + heals + lots of CC is a winning combo).
I have done this a bunch:
I soloed all the non-HMFP group content on the HK quest line with a JK tank and healer companion at level 50 (pre-2.0 and level cap increase)

I ran the Ilum storyline FPs solo. I did BoI and FE SM solo with a DPS Sage and DPS companion and a DPS commando and healer companion. The DPS+DPS was easier . But I had a blast with both.

When CZ-198 came out I soloed the SM FPs on my JK tank and my Smuggler healer.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkDisturbed View Post
All the OP is asking for is content like we used to have like Lost Island HM, instead of 5 incredibly easy tactical flashpoints so people in level 40 greens can do them too.
There are more players who want to see the content than want to be "challenged" by it. BW is simply catering to the majority.

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Damask_Rose
05.12.2014 , 11:14 AM | #42
I don't find SWtOR to be too easy because I don't play it for the challenge, I play if for the stories. I have played many, many MMOs over the years and SWtOR doesn't stand out as being any easier than the others.

Since I haven't done any Hard Mode content or Ops., the best gear I can reasonably get is 72s from the elite vendors and I'm still working on that on all of my 55s. When I'm in the mood for testing myself, I'll try soloing a flashpoint and see how far I can get. Other people do it, so that provides me with a good goal. Same with world bosses.

I have a set of no advanced class characters on a different server. Even though they are still low level I can see the greater difficulty playing them. They have fewer skills, no skill trees and some can't use off hands. I had transferred a character there, so they have the buffs and presence, so for additional challenge, you could roll on a fresh server.

Saying that they are only releasing content once a year is a gross exaggeration unless you are only considering one type of content. PvP, GSF and tacticals might not be your cup of tea, but they are still content.
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Damask_Rose
05.12.2014 , 11:22 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by -Me- View Post
And secondly northwards of a million active players is not northwards of a million current subscribers. If that is what your suggesting, please provide source.
Andryah is usually quite precise with word choice. If s/he meant subscribers s/he would have said so.
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ScarletBlaze
05.12.2014 , 11:33 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by -Me- View Post
If memory serves me, aren't you the one Bioware pays to patrol the forum? Or at least thats been the long running joke and suspicion around here. Sorry as much as I would like to, I'm not getting baited into a debate with paid trolls.

And secondly northwards of a million active players is not northwards of a million current subscribers. If that is what your suggesting, please provide source.
If you would have paid attention you would also know that suspicion was something stated by someone that wanted to create suspicions about Andryah because they didn't like the comments Andryah was making in one of their topics.

I have disagreed with Andryah in the past and probably will do so again but I would not sink to the level to call Andryah a troll because her record clearly indicates she is not.
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horrorfaneightys
05.12.2014 , 11:50 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
If you would have paid attention you would also know that suspicion was something stated by someone that wanted to create suspicions about Andryah because they didn't like the comments Andryah was making in one of their topics.

I have disagreed with Andryah in the past and probably will do so again but I would not sink to the level to call Andryah a troll because her record clearly indicates she is not.
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Andryah
05.12.2014 , 12:41 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by -Me- View Post
And secondly northwards of a million active players is not northwards of a million current subscribers. If that is what your suggesting, please provide source.
I did not say subscribers. Reality check.. the game runs on a flexible access model which means active players on servers are ALWAYS some combination of sub, preferred, and Free players.

Stop looking down your nose at non-subscribers. It does however tell us quite a bit about you.. so thanks for that insight.
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RandomXChance
05.12.2014 , 12:42 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by NeoIshamael View Post
You have a point there. However, with the population it seems that gaining the people who desire dreadtooth and hard-modes is rare. The only thing with SWTOR HM OPS is the mechanics are really easy to manage. Although I have not tried HM DF/DP.
You see, the problem is that the dedicated raiders seem to be the only ones that crave challenge. Just do a search on the countless threads wanting Lost Island nerfed, threads about Revenge of the Archon being too hard, and people wanting some of the operations scaled down to 4 man even though they are easily done with four presently.

When they started actually putting effort into making the Nightmare Modes a real test of the players, you got multiple threads about "why waste dev resources on something only a small percentage of the population wnats/runs?".

Exhibit A:
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhalius View Post
Considering how dull the combat is, I certainly dont need a challenge there. Thats best reserved for fun combat systems.

Not much fun in spamming many weak attacks that dont seem to do much at all against any kind of boss. I'd rather have much less attacks but each holding more meaning, and shorter but more intense boss fights.

HP spunges are the most boring thing in any game. Just a waste of time, and not a challenge.
This person does not want to worry about rotations and mechanics. They want to pew pew all day. Is seems the majority of the players feel this way. I sometimes think many of them want this to be Assassin's Creed or Metal Gear Rising with lightsabers.

If you want any challenge then you will have to "challenge yourself" as others have said or do Dread Fortress and Dread Palace hard and nightmare modes. The hard modes do require more that just the right gear, and nightmare is a real challenge. Now finding the other 7 people IS the hard part!

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Anzel
05.12.2014 , 01:05 PM | #48
This game is as easy or as difficult as any other depending on the way you play. But my guess is that is the *real problem for the OP. That's it's not difficult for everyone all the time. It really sucks to see such a great game get ruined by such a terrible community.
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RandomXChance
05.12.2014 , 01:09 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Well, there is definitely a problem with hardcore raiders thinking they are the center of the MMO universe.. when in fact they are probably more like around 5% of MMO players (at most). And seriously... not every MMO is designed with them in mind.... much less designed to make them the center of attention.

Note: please do not confuse my use of the term "hard core" to mean all players that do raid in MMOs. I'm only talking about the demanding, hypercritical, prima donnas who need to flex their raiding epeen and think MMOs only exist for their pleasure.

That said... there are a lot of casual players that I have run across over the years in MMOs that very much do like challenging play.... but they are more open minded in general and look for challenge in a number of areas of an MMO, rather then digging in like ticks on the back of a dog...demanding the dog be transfused with their favorite liquid nourishment on command.
Don't get me wrong, I entirely agree. Some "hardcore" raiders do think the game revolves around them and that is why I specifically used "dedicated". I think of that as someone (I am in that boat) who's primary focus on the game is raiding. I get just as much enjoyment out of NM Dread Fortress with the guild as I do in leading a PUG and trying to teach people how to run them and not be intimidated.

There are many times I enjoy doing KDY and just blasting everything in sight and paying no mind to mechanics. My point was that the OP's sentiment about the lack of challenging non-HM/NM mode raiding appears to be in the true minority. I base this not just by the history of threads calling for content to be nerfed, but also by the way most people seem play in game. Mechanics just get in the way of swinging those pretty lightsabers and pew pewing those big blasters.

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Projawa
05.12.2014 , 01:11 PM | #50
Try HM/NIM DF/DP. You can't say the game is too easy if you have not availed yourself of the available "difficult" content.

Maybe you're too busy to commit to a HM/NIM raid team due to family/work/etc. Or you can't find a team that's willing to take you. That's fine, but those are scheduling/logistics issues, not an issue with the game being too easy.