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ZahirS
05.05.2014 , 07:28 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Just ignore him. He will argue that what he says is right no matter how many facts you present that prove him wrong. let the guy spout his nonsense and allow him to show what kind of fool he is. Not worth your time and energy, not to mention mental stability, to argue with him. You can't fix stupid.
What facts also reported.

His quote is wrong, editted and not verifiable.

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t-darko
05.05.2014 , 07:31 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
/facepalm

No, I... no. I honestly don't know how to deal with so much wrong.
The referral to the old republic in EP 4 stands alone, as it is mentioned in the movie it is Canon at the very absolute level, also known as G - level, hence is the concept of the old republic Canon.

The Ruusan reformation and its tie to explain the old republic is very well explained here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_Reformation

The question isn't whether the old republic is Canon or not that is established with out a doubt, the question is whether swtor version of the old republic is canon or not, which it has been at C - level until recent events(Read; Disney EU purge).

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ZahirS
05.05.2014 , 07:32 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by t-darko View Post
The referral to the old republic in EP 4 stands alone, as it is mentioned in the movie it is Canon at the very absolute level, also known as G - level, hence is the concept of the old republic Canon.

The Ruusan reformation and its tie to explain the old republic is very well explained here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_Reformation

The question isn't whether the old republic is Canon or not that is established with out a doubt, the question is whether swtor version of the old republic is canon or not, which it has been at C - level until recent events(Read; Disney EU purge).
Thanks man finally someone that thinks around here.

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marcelo_sdk
05.05.2014 , 08:08 PM | #24
The canonicity of the Old Republic is unquestionable, it is well estabilished in various moments on the official canon sources that there was a Republic before the Ruusan reformation.

About this game, as posted in another topic, we can consider it's the only "gray" piece of the old EU, that means it was not estabilished as part of the official canon, either it was confirmed as part of it. The final answer, I think, will come with the next expansion. If the story group is credited, like it was on Galactic Starfighter, on the game credits, then I think it's safe to say that it is part of canon.

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Aurbere
05.05.2014 , 08:53 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by t-darko View Post
The referral to the old republic in EP 4 stands alone, as it is mentioned in the movie it is Canon at the very absolute level, also known as G - level, hence is the concept of the old republic Canon.

The Ruusan reformation and its tie to explain the old republic is very well explained here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_Reformation

The question isn't whether the old republic is Canon or not that is established with out a doubt, the question is whether swtor version of the old republic is canon or not, which it has been at C - level until recent events(Read; Disney EU purge).
He's referring to the Old Republic, yes, but that does not mean he is referring to TOR and KOTOR. He mentioned nothing specific.
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PavSalco
05.07.2014 , 06:45 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
He's referring to the Old Republic, yes, but that does not mean he is referring to TOR and KOTOR. He mentioned nothing specific.
+1
It's ridiculous to assume that Lucas was thinking about the precise period of 25000 BBY to 1000 BBY when he wrote the script. Ben Kenobi in the movie was referring to the old republic that we see in the prequels.

It doesn't make SWTOR or KOTOR canon in the same way as the appearence of Darth Bane in TCW doesn't make Karpyshyn's books canon. It only establishes the Bane character itself and the existence of Republic.

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Sanguiluna
05.08.2014 , 03:20 AM | #27
Realistically speaking, does it actually matter much? The Old Republic era is far enough away from the films and the rest of the official canon that you can pretty much take it or leave it as you wish.

At this point, unless either Lucasfilm outright announces that it's still canon, or they create a whole new "ancient history" that overwrites the current Old Republic continuity, I'd say it's up to you. It really doesn't make much of a difference pragmatically speaking.
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t-darko
05.08.2014 , 04:11 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
He's referring to the Old Republic, yes, but that does not mean he is referring to TOR and KOTOR. He mentioned nothing specific.
Quote: Originally Posted by PavSalco View Post
+1
It's ridiculous to assume that Lucas was thinking about the precise period of 25000 BBY to 1000 BBY when he wrote the script. Ben Kenobi in the movie was referring to the old republic that we see in the prequels.

It doesn't make SWTOR or KOTOR canon in the same way as the appearence of Darth Bane in TCW doesn't make Karpyshyn's books canon. It only establishes the Bane character itself and the existence of Republic.
The CONCEPT of the Old Republic has always Been pure Canon as it is mentioned in EP 4(G - level also known as True Canon). Its Swtors version of the Old republic(has been regarded as Continuous at C-level Canon as all other Expanded Universe productions) that are contested not the CONCEPT as mentioned in EP 4.

In regards of Canon the only Pure Canon always have been the Movies. Since this has happened the; Great Disny EU purge; (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2014/04/...-is-non-canon/ / http://io9.com/disney-appoints-a-gro...-st-1497893812) the following has, up to now, been the major definition of Canon Levels http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon and from now on this is Wookiepeedias official stand point http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wooki...a:Canon_policy.

The thing we all need to take in account is the following http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/04/dis...niverse-novels, Legends(former EU) is said to be a source of inspiration for future stories, so what in the EU that will become Continuous Canon or Canon will be decided by usage in all new releases.