Solutions to issues faced by Carnage/Combat

My head is killing since because of the flu but I think you are mistaken here. Vengeance juggs had unstoppable since ages. It's because of the buff to enrage defense (combined with the lolsmash nerf) that you see a lot of vengeance juggs.

Called it:


Let me guess, most of their posts have been either something not even pertaining to the topic/thread.... things along the lines of "Thats stupid" and not providing supporting arguments much less evidence... or /lol /L2P or "What I say is law and fact".

Close to the mark haha?

Lol, whoops.

Meant the buff they added in awhile back with the Ravage/MS root, where the rotation became more solid to run because people couldn't just run away like before. Mixed those two spec qualities up, sorry about that.

My point was that having the ability to keep a target rooted by the Ravage/MS strike and a way to actually be mostly uncontrollable/uncounterable in activating your biggest hit made the spec actually strong enough to compete, where it's not too overpowered.

Lol, whoops.

Meant the buff they added in awhile back with the Ravage/MS root, where the rotation became more solid to run because people couldn't just run away like before. Mixed those two spec qualities up, sorry about that.

My point was that having the ability to keep a target rooted by the Ravage/MS strike and a way to actually be mostly uncontrollable/uncounterable in activating your biggest hit made the spec actually strong enough to compete, where it's not too overpowered.

It's funny, because while I trolled at bit at his most outrageous proposal, I actually responded with logical arguements to the rest of his dribble.

This guy is taking the approach of "if you don't agree with me I'm not going to listen to you."

It's hard to maintain logic and objectivity when someone suggests such ludicrous buffs and doesn't seem to have a basic understanding of what makes carnage/combat so powerful.

Also, the only "negative" comment I made was in my very last post, so he ignored me after reading that or he simply ignored me as soon as I disagreed with him.

/shrug

Maybe don't pop precision slash after every leap, there is such a thing as delaying burst while waiting for a optimal time.

Seriously you should try getting off flamethrower as a AP powertech

Called it:



Let me guess, most of their posts have been either something not even pertaining to the topic/thread.... things along the lines of "Thats stupid" and not providing supporting arguments much less evidence... or /lol /L2P or "What I say is law and fact".

Close to the mark haha?

Lol, whoops.

Meant the buff they added in awhile back with the Ravage/MS root, where the rotation became more solid to run because people couldn't just run away like before. Mixed those two spec qualities up, sorry about that.

My point was that having the ability to keep a target rooted by the Ravage/MS strike and a way to actually be mostly uncontrollable/uncounterable in activating your biggest hit made the spec actually strong enough to compete, where it's not too overpowered.

Idiotic.

Carnage needs execute to work as a stacking debuff up to 3 like they did with madness.

Ataru form gives 1 stack of execute, each stack increases the damage deal by 3.33% (10% at 3 stacks)., increases the crit chance by 33.33% (100% at 3), and reduces the rage cost by 1/2/3. Making scream free instead of costing 2 and refunding 1 after use will fix flow problems. It will also reduce the rage starvation carnage maras face. Stacking buff for execute also removes RNG.

Slaughter should not be able to proc while gore is off cooldown.

And that's pretty much it. You cannot give carnage marauders cc immunity. Vengeance seems broken now because of ED. Carnage has more burst than veng, less control, and the ability to be shut down. CC immunity = me globalling your entire team.

Here is a compiled list of suggestions I have that would solve the balance, and QoL issues Carnage/Combat tree currently faces in PVP.

First off, the biggest issue that the spec faces is the mass amount of CC that is easily thrown around. CC in this game has far too little of a drawback, drawbacks as in better resolve system, CC reflects, and larger cooldowns. Extremely simple, low cost and low cooldown CC can just be thrown around at a whim, with little thought and sometimes it is even AOE. Even this simple CC can completely shut down the burst rotation of Combat/Carnage that, depending on the scenario/opponent takes thought and adaptation without even considering throwing the CC in. No other DPS spec suffers this in practice.

Now don't get me wrong CC should be the counter to the spec, but what it should counter is the pressure that the marauder/sent should be the best at applying, not completely shutting it down consistently without effort. You have to remember as well, in a game where AOEs exist, add Ranged classes are given kiting tools as well as burst, melee classes succumb to the most potential damage taken. Without a self heal, this fact is even more compounded on because even after a win or escape, the Mara/sent has to take longer to reset and try again.


Onto the suggestions:


1.) Undying Rage
Instant
Cooldown: 120s
Reduces the damage you take by 99% and reflects all incoming crowd control effects back at the source for 5 seconds. When the effect ends, 50% of your current health is lost.



2.) Frenzied Sabers
When your Ataru Form deals damage, your damage reduction is increased by [2.5 / 5]%. Stacks up to 2 times. Lasts 10 seconds.


3.) Execute
Your Ataru Form hits grant a stack of Execute, each stack makes your next Force Scream deal [2.5 / 5]% more damage. Stacks up to 2 times. Lasts 5 seconds.

4.) Towering Rage
Each stack of Execute now additionally increases the critical chance of Force Scream by [25 / 50]%.


5.) Stagger
Knockback immunity is now granted for [1 / 2] seconds immediately after a Force charge.






Note:
These are more conservative changes for the most part, even though I am sure there will be a mass following of trolls that enter this thread that will claim some math or supposed consistent scenario involving Combat/Carnage that these changes would make overpowered but will be unwilling to provide even a shred of evidence to support it (even though consistency would dictate easy access to proof)

On that note, I welcome constructed criticism, as long as it is mature and if you are going to make a claim at least do the presentable, or rather intelligent motion of a debate and supply evidence.