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BioWare are you trying to get your operations players to leave?

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BioWare are you trying to get your operations players to leave?

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DarthTexas
05.07.2014 , 04:36 PM | #1
The last operations were released on October 1, 2013, the next one will be October 21, 2014 at the earliest, since there's no indication of a new operation in 2.9 on August 19; that's at least a year between new operations. Nightmare Modes of existing operations do not constitute new operations, despite how much you may want us to believe that.

Additionally, it will be at least 18 months between the raises of the level cap. We had 16 months for 1-50 content with 8 class stories and 4 operations. It will be at least 18 months, and possibly more for 51-55 with no class stories and only 3 operations.

If your goal is get players who love operations to leave and try out other games then you're succeeding. Please throw us a bone and tell us when anything of substance will be added to the game beyond gambling and housing mini-games.

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Darth_Wicked
05.07.2014 , 04:38 PM | #2
I agree.
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05.07.2014 , 04:40 PM | #3
*sigh* me too

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05.07.2014 , 04:45 PM | #4
Obvious, Party of four

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05.07.2014 , 04:46 PM | #5
My guild won't be leaving, but we definitely are bored. Most only login for operations and even NiM isn't really stirring the pot. I'll patiently wait though. Because Dammit, I love this game
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Darth_Wicked
05.07.2014 , 04:49 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTexas View Post
The last operations were released on October 1, 2013, the next one will be October 21, 2014 at the earliest, since there's no indication of a new operation in 2.9 on August 19; that's at least a year between new operations Nightmare Modes of existing operations do not constitute new operations, despite how much you may want us to believe that.

Additionally, it will be at least 18 months between the raises of the level cap. We had 16 months for 1-50 content with 8 class stories and 4 operations. It will be at least 18 months, and possibly more for 51-55 with no class stories and only 3 operations.

If your goal is get players who love operations to leave and try out other games then you're succeeding. Please throw us a bone and tell us when anything of substance will be added to the game beyond gambling and housing mini-games.
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Have you heard this one? "There once was a Mon Cal from Dac. He wore a jetpack on his back..."
"He liked to shoot blasters, and fly even faster. He was a Mando-Cal attack."

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05.07.2014 , 04:49 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by PUMA View Post
My guild won't be leaving, but we definitely are bored. Most only login for operations and even NiM isn't really stirring the pot. I'll patiently wait though. Because Dammit, I love this game
That sounds like my guild right now. Most of us login twice a week for nightmare operations, and do very little else in game the rest of the week. Many of us are instead playing other games together outside of SWTOR. The longer BioWare waits to give us anything of substance, the harder it will be for them to get back our full attention.

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Rasen
05.07.2014 , 05:07 PM | #8
My guild has actually been booming lately and we have old members returning. We are planning on finishing up HM Council this week since our raid team is now fully formed and will start working on Nightmare DF/SNV/TFB. Nonetheless we aren't super hardcore though so without new operations in the horizon we will need to make an effort to keep people busy by running PvP nights and running alts at least until Guild Conquest.

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Tatile
05.07.2014 , 05:16 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by PUMA View Post
My guild won't be leaving, but we definitely are bored. Most only login for operations and even NiM isn't really stirring the pot. I'll patiently wait though. Because Dammit, I love this game
My guild aren't considering NiM content at the moment, largely because we're not cutting-edge players (sounds harsh, but it's true). We do hard mode, but I think we're suffering burn out because my god this content, it's been around ages. We may not have the Council or Bestia on farm mode, but it's a drag to go there every week with no end in sight. If this raid's going to be around for another six or ten months, why hurry?

So yeah, they're discussing WildStar. I don't see the attraction, personally, but I'm really wondering why I'm here as well. It's not so much "love" as "there's nothing else on the market I really want to try", and that's not really a sustainable attitude to have in your customers.

They're getting better with their fight designs, I feel (again, I'm not a world class raider so my opinion probably isn't worth much in that regard), but they're also a long time in coming. There's no story content to add in, either (oh, Forged Alliances, you mean the flashpoint you can finish in your lunch break? Such story, much content.) or even - heaven forbid - daily areas to pad it out with, and levelling alts is like pulling teeth. Not for speed, but for for the fact I can't be arsed with the planets any more.

But I guess with the bolster I can run around in empty shells and still be fine? Whoo. Such a drive to do the content and get the shinies.

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NoFishing
05.07.2014 , 05:16 PM | #10
Heh,

I've seen this coming since the original roadmap release in January. At this point, there won't be any new operations until the expansion and level cap increase, because they will not release a new operation in October only to have to bump the level cap of it in December. Also, I'm not convinced it won't be tactical operations (bolster in SM OPS, are you kidding??) with the HM/NiM versions coming some time in 2015.

I have 3 days left on my 6-mo subscription, and have been waiting/hoping since February for some reason to extend it. But there isn't one.