Producer Letter – Galactic Strongholds

Yes, I understand that he was claiming that Ilum had a kill-trading problem, what I was asking is if there's ever been any official statements, or any other sort of actual evidence, that it was a significant or widespread problem.

I'm not saying it never happened, but BW rolling back some people's valor levels doesn't mean that "many PVPers" were kill-trading, or that PVPers in general "have to be treated like children". That would be the same as claiming that just because BW rolled back some PVPers' Ranked scores, "many" players were win-trading, or that Ranked players "have to be treated like children".

He was making some sweeping generalizations about PVPers, I am just asking if there was any evidence to match the scope of his claims. Especially because he's using those generalizations as a reason for why he thinks the devs should have a specific "treat them like children" design approach to future PVP content.

If all he's basing those generalizations on is anecdotal evidence... well then the restrictive, hand-holding design approach he's suggesting seems more like a case of 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater', rather than a proportional response to a problem. The extent of the problem is very relevant to determining the appropriateness of the response.

It's why they closed down Ilum.

I see the May 11 sub benefit is Nar Shadaa house with 5 rooms and the June 15 sub benefit is Nar Shadaa house with 3 rooms.

Does being subscribed during both May 11 and June 15 mean we get Nar Shadaa house with 8 rooms?

O god, congratz on being a Nazi Grammar, want a reward? A cookie perhaps? You're only comeback here is about my grammar, but oke if you want fancy words here it comes.

First of let me start by addressing this phrase you point out earlier in your comment sir, You seem awfully full of your self being Nazi Grammer here, but for a article that has been written , lets say, near perfect English (Do you like the capital letter i used, i mean i don't want you to get upset by using a lower case e) and still you cant seem to gather the information that has been given to you in plain and clear sentence and or the comments left by Eric (There another Capital E at someone's name, i mean for god sake it's not like i am filling out a job application, but humor me.) And also been stated on what updates they would release and it what manner, One expansion, mostly dedicated to PVP, being said, i do believe GSF was the PVP expansion that has been release no? And then another dedicated to PVE that being said, do seems logical that STRONGHOLD is the PVE expansion? And somehow you seem to be thinking that you have been given the peoples voice and authority to speak on behalf of the PVP community? Sorry to burst your bubble sir, but i did not throw in my vote for you. (So i hope you can let that little brain of yours proccess this sentance that it means that i am a PVP'er myself and have no problem with the mention of PVP or the content and players and other matter related to it )

As you seem to lack the cerebral cortex part, to comprehend that there are more then just PVP guild's out there that would love to see the special perks added to their guilds and yet you seem awfully convinced this is PVP related, but since you seem so reluctant about this whole Conquest part so i decided to bring the Nazi grammar some substantiation,



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And yet you are certain that this should only be put up on PVP server as that is the best solution, whilst there has, as you self just said in the above quote that no definite list of features, and still you want to press on the fact that it should be PVP server only, as for the fact that if this would actual be a PVP related expansion, without a final confirmation on the features that will be added, it could have easily been, fight against another guild (which once again could be guild members who absolutely have no PVP experience, knowledge or gear to fight against PVP players, and also that to continue to dominate the planet once you ranked top, you need to defend your base on the planet or flagship against incoming NPC, which can be done by PVP players but since their gear doesn't do that much of damage as PVE geared people would do, you mind find your self in a difficult position to maintaining control over a planet)



Yeah i think you don't need to underscore anything else but...



Why? because



Like bringing out a content and then put it for certain server only, wont get people to quit or swap server in the game, leaving other servers more empty and then to the inevitable shut down.

And even if this was PVP related, please help me clear my ametropia that i do seem to believe that even PVE players PVP and vice versa.

But since you seem to believe that PVP related content should be on only PVP servers, then why don't we remove Planets, FP, Ops and such from PVP server, and let every character on PVP server level by PVP it self no? Being on a RP, or PVE server doesn't mean PVP don't happen, it simply means, open world PVP is not going to happen unless you flag your self, by putting on the option and or attacking another flagged person in open world. Other then that, PVP happens as the same for PVP server, where people who joined that server do PVE related content.


So you're saying that PVP servers can get PVE related content but as long as they release PVP content it should stick to PVP servers? Please be so kindly to go F your self,

As you have your doubts, i have mine, and like you addressed in this coment



As to lower your concerns, the only things that affected the Economic in this game are Crafting Skills, being able to craft, 180 item rating modification items and Cartel Market, and i doubt it will go any other way.

A highly doubt that even with the Stronghold expansion and guild flag ship gaining planetary control will give them certain materials needed to craft that you can't find anywhere. The only thing that will be a even bigger changer in the Economic is and once again and will be Crafting, since you can craft decorations for Strongholds

So if you have something to say about someones previous comment, that was related to yours, please stay on topic if you anyhting valid to say, if not don't try to look cool by being a Nazi grammar, because you look like a double plus class A D-ick.

As for the person might just recently started to learn engl---SIKE---English and or might be dyslectic or some other form of mental illness or physical that prevent them from speaking and or typing proper English so goodbye Mr Nazi grammer A.K.A double plus class A D-ick

Source?

For some reason I can't go back farther than 3/13/12 in dev tracker. As Stephen Reid's most well known comment on the matter was made on prior to that date, I'm having a difficult time finding the information to properly source it.

Prior to Ilum being taken down to be "rehauled"(and instead being scrapped) they had already addressed faction imbalance and considered performance sufficiently acceptable. The only issue being addressed at the time was kill trading/valor farming. They were unable to fix the problem, so they took it down so it could be entirely rehauled.

I mean, they solved cap trading by removing the daily for them, and then when they had a problem with the new daily because of kill trading, they removed it. There's not really another way to interpret it.

Ilum is being deprecated in Game Update 1.2. The Open World PvP area on Ilum will still be present in 1.2, but rewards previously gained in Ilum will be available in Warzones and that's where we expect the bulk of PvP to take place for now.

As we said during the Guild Summit, the PvP team is 'going back to the drawing board' with Ilum. That means they want to rework it to be fun and engaging. We accept there are issues with the current design and want to ensure that what we end up with is enjoyable for PvP fans. We have no ETA on when a redesigned Ilum might be available, but when we do have more news, we'll share it.

The PvP team definitely monitors these Forums and would love to see constructive feedback on Open World PvP and how you feel it could be improved. They have their own ideas, of course, and they've read many of the posts here but more feedback is always welcome.

Open world PVP

• We know they are less popular than warzones. 3x more level 50 warzone players than ilum players – Ilum has some problems!
• Going back to the drawing board for Ilum – more details later this year.
• We got a bit too ambitious with ilum – we had some technical difficulties that got in the way of what we wanted to accomplish. Ilum will still be there but just not as incentivzed as much.
• Redesign Ilum to be more fun and engaging – if it is the right time and right place it is going to be fun – we want to make timed objectives, balancing measures between factions.
• Removing Ilum PVP quests – rewards being moved to warzones for now.

Q & A:

• Q: My guild mates were devasted by the removal of Ilum objective based gameplay on Ilum because of trading that were going on. . The new more deathmatch based system just wasn’t the same. Any plans to returns to returns to objectives based system in open world PVP?
• A: we had issues with the 5 objectives permanently locked to a faction (they are suppose to only lock for a specific amount of time). We weren’t able to do much before the game went live and as such there were trading were going on since these objectives lock permanently unless players changed them. We had to change it to killing for the meantime but it is not our long –term goal. Ilum in the future will be objective focused.

May 11th is no longer the deadline for Strongholds Early Access rewards but as a thank you to all of our Subscribers as of this date, we are giving you the following rewards:

Exclusive Subteroth minipet (delivered in Update 2.7.2)
Two Character Titles “The Intrepid” (delivered in Update 2.7.2) and “The Illustrious” (delivered in Game Update 2.9)
A sprawling Nar Shaddaa Sky Palace with five additional rooms unlocked
Stronghold Name "Galactic Stronghold"**

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