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Strongholds are legacy wide...

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Andryah
04.24.2014 , 12:25 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Devrius View Post
I will only say one last thing: to those who say "wait until it's out to complain" you couldn't be more wrong.

You complain *before* something is finished so it may be changed in time, once it's done making modifications is much harder if not impossible.
Step back and think about what you just said for a moment or two. Now check the record of complaints about bugs and player issues with upcoming patch content + the complaints that nothing was done before the patch went live.

My point? By the time they tease out to us what is coming... the implementation is already so far along that they are only going to address what they believe are severe impacts to the players abilities to experience the new content. Actual feature changes come later.. after players have some time to work the content and Bioware has some time to observe the "as-is" features with the live world wide population.

TL;DR you are wrong about this.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Andryah
04.24.2014 , 12:28 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by horrorfaneightys View Post
Maybe I misunderstood. But I never really saw strongholds as an RP expansion. I got the impression that a lot of people wanted player housing, and asked for it repeatedly in the forums. I didn't think it was just RPers. So I see the expansion as meant for everyone.
I agree with you on this.

RP is somewhat common in MMOs, but is in no way representative of the majority of players. If RP owned the game.. then most (if not all) servers would be "RP" servers.

But the OP wants to hand us his spleen over this (even though he does not have all the data yet.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Darth_Wicked
04.24.2014 , 12:30 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I agree with you on this.

RP is somewhat common in MMOs, but is in no way representative of the majority of players. If RP owned the game.. then most (if not all) servers would be "RP" servers.

But the OP wants to hand us his spleen over this (even though he does not have all the data yet.
I recently created a number of characters on the Progenitor, which is an RP server and dayum... There's RP and then there's that. Seriously some disturbing stuff going there, even for Sith on Korriban.

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Andryah
04.24.2014 , 12:31 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Icestar View Post
I really like that the house is legacybound, that way I can create one nice big home for all my characters.
/Agree.

That said, while a stronghold is usable across a legacy... NO WHERE yet, that I am aware of, have they said that a legacy is limited to a single stronghold. In fact, they have hinted the opposite (though have not firmly announced so).

Watch... after it goes live.. we will see that you can indeed have multiple strongholds in a legacy AND the OP will be back complaining that he has to actually earn/pay-for each one.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Varium
04.24.2014 , 12:49 PM | #45
How are you guys so sure that by Legacy wide they mean you only have to buy them once but every character can customize their own house?
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Darth_Wicked
04.24.2014 , 12:52 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Varium View Post
How are you guys so sure that by Legacy wide they mean you only have to buy them once but every character can customize their own house?
This is what we know...

http://www.swtor.com/community/showp...4&postcount=21

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ekwalizer
04.25.2014 , 06:31 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Devrius View Post
So the community has been asking for player housing since launch, no group more vocal on the subject then those who RP and now that it's finally here they will be completely useless to enhance the RP experience.

Hell if anything having a Stronghold will go *against* RP: "my Sith lord lives in the same house as my republic trooper and they have displayed trophies from achievements my scoundrel earned. Here you can see the one I got from freeing Revan on my JK, here's the one I got from killing him on my SW..."

Anyone else thinks this is kinda of a slap to the RP community? "Oh you guys want players housing? Sure, but we'll make sure it useless to you guys in particular huehuehuehue"

I was really looking forward to make customized living quarters to all of my characters, I was already planning to go do OPs and whatever else drops achievement trophies to furnish each's individual house, now? Well it's retroactive so no need to do anything ,a lot of people would have done extra OPs/FPs on alts to furnish their homes it would have really helped with queue and what not.
Well here is another one for you. You will most likely go to the same instance door as everyone else (just like how we all share archetype ship hangars).

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AlaricSevGirl
04.25.2014 , 06:35 AM | #48
I don't mind this at all. The one thing I don't want is to have any companions in my stronghold. I want the ability to have none of them there except the droids. Give me this and I will be happy. The only companion I ever use is Treek. She's also welcome in my home any time.
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Drudenfusz
04.25.2014 , 06:52 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by AlaricSevGirl View Post
I don't mind this at all. The one thing I don't want is to have any companions in my stronghold. I want the ability to have none of them there except the droids. Give me this and I will be happy. The only companion I ever use is Treek. She's also welcome in my home any time.
I think you don't have to place them there, but people like me who want to put many companies from different characters there can do so if they like (have already quite a few ideas which companions I would put standing together)... and I am wondering if I can use Treek from multiple characters to have a small Ewok colony in my stronghold.
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Jessabeans
04.25.2014 , 06:53 AM | #50
I do not see it as a negative that they are legacy wide. There are 4 different locations, so if you were playing say 8 characters, they would only need to double up. I like that I will be able to visit the same house and use items bound to one character, it feels like it would have been more limiting the other way around.

In LOTRO we only got one house per server and it always said the character you purchased it on name as the location, it was hard to explain why my human was in a strange elf's house. I ended up purchasing a kinship house and using it as an inn for the rest of my characters, but it got really expensive to maintain the less I played. On the other hand, you can have 3+ dimensions in RIFT, and it got very annoying rebuying/crafting duplicate items to decorate that 6th temple. In SWG we got 10 house slots per account, but since you could only have two characters (3 if you unlocked jedi originally) so many people played multiple accounts, usually around 3 per person. So those 30 lots (even though the larger buildings took up several of your allotted lots, 5 for large style homes) got really hard to manage/maintain. I was always losing harvesters because I would forget to pay maintenance on them. In Everquest 2, towards the end you could own up to 25 houses per character. I don't even want to think about how long that would take to purchase/decorate. Most of my alts in EQ just lived in their free 'apartment' anyway.

I really hope 'strongholds' proves to be a popular feature so that developers might consider expanding on it in the future. I would love more planet options (like Alderaan), but I am happy I won't have to repurchase or unlock them over and over again.
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