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DarthVengeant
04.21.2014 , 06:07 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
breathe deep. reread the quote. we're not talking about WZs. we're talking about rated arenas. it's the lack of gear restriction and bolster in rated that's at issue. this has absolutely zero to do with fresh 55s.
Ahh, I see. My bad. This is a fine idea them imo.

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sithBracer
04.21.2014 , 06:09 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexModny View Post
This is understandable and will happen to many players, even me no doubt =/

However we feel that having wins be the only criteria is a better way to go instead of making them games played. This is because of the incentive to play the gamemode for the right reasons (to win) is much lower for someone who is just interested in completing the daily/weekly. A percentage of the Ranked population would be queuing just to complete a quest and that would be detrimental to the team. We feel Games Played with an incentive (Double counts for Wins) is more acceptable in Unranked games because of the larger team size (less personal impact on if your team wins or loses) and more casual atmosphere.

This is our current philosophy on the choice we made but if it isn't working out we will make adjustments where and when possible.

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JediMasterSLC
04.21.2014 , 06:11 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
Your comment is exactly what I was talking about, that insulting elitist attitude. First you insult me, then you discount anything I've said just because you don't agree with it by saying I am "casual", which I am not. People with your attitude is what is ruining the fun of this game and PVP. Your little "club", which it is not. You can have a playstyle and legitimate opinion, but don't insult people and act like a child about it all shoving your ego into everything.
Nothing wrong with elitism. You made a stupid comment, so you got called out for it. Don't be mad.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
Ranked is about whatever the player want's it to be. Unfortunately too many people seem to think its an ego trip and elitist club. Which it is not. I pay 15 bucks a month for the game, so I can do Ranked if I please, for any reason I please. Yet, the Ranked que never popped in Season 1 on my server, leaving my toon qued at prime time for 3 hrs with no pop, so doesn't much matter anyway.
No, it's about winning. And if ranked never popped on your server, then you ARE a casual for not xferring to a real server.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
So, how do you propose fresh 55's get into a WZ then? You cant have enough comms saved to buy a full set of PVP gear the second you hit 55, so you have to PVP in half PVE gear until you can get more PVP gear. What you are saying would make it impossible to do PVP at 55.
That's what regs are for.... do you play this game?

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
NO!!!!! The Berzerker Relics are second best in slot. Most everyone I know in my HM ops has them now. They are essential. I PVP'd all week to save comms before 2.7 hit so I could get the new Relics on many of my HM Ops toons. This is an outrageous idea.
Why? PvE gear shouldn't be in PvP, and PvP gear shouldn't be in PvE. You keep basing your support/opposition for proposed game decisions on how it will affect you and your friends, not whether or not it will be good for the game as a whole.

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illgot
04.21.2014 , 06:47 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthRaistlin View Post
Please Please Please make them wins only count, and you need 4 or even 6 a day.

We do not want Ranked filled with the PvE'ers in there PvE gear just taking up space to get the relics they want. It's bad enough there in regs getting killed from behind by sorcs doing there keyboard turning wondering where the dmg is coming from.

Please make it so you have to win to get credit.
I was around during release when games only counted wins.

Know what happened? If the team was not optimal and started off winning, half the people gave up while a good majority just abandoned the game assuring the loss.

With a team of 4v4 we will end up with one team recognizing a couple of good players and abandoning the game. Maybe 1 or 2 people will stick around, but that will guarantee a loss before the game even starts.

Keep it like normal warzones where loses count for half the total of a win. We do not have the population for ranked PvP to cater only for winners.

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idnewton
04.21.2014 , 06:49 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
I was around during release when games only counted wins.

Know what happened? If the team was not optimal and started off winning, half the people gave up while a good majority just abandoned the game assuring the loss.

Keep it like normal warzones where loses count for half the total of a win.
This is why abandonment lockouts need to be implemented, as they were in group finder.

If not, this will simply fail again.
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TezMoney
04.21.2014 , 06:51 PM | #46
They should make weekly/dailies count for loses as well, but make it group only. That would probably be a nice compromise and incentive grp ranked, which is what really needs a boost.
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idnewton
04.21.2014 , 06:54 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by TezMoney View Post
They should make weekly/dailies count for loses as well, but make it group only. That would probably be a nice compromise and incentive grp ranked, which is what really needs a boost.
Personally I think the Ranked missions should be team-only. There will always be 'that guy' who beats his head against the wall until something happens, and will queue over and over and over with worthless gear hoping to luck out on a win. As a result, everyone's rating suffers.

By restricting these dailies to team-only, your teammates already know the gear you're coming in with, and you won't be robbing the real PvPers of their rating.

I don't think losses should count towards the daily or the weekly, but I do think that the Ranked PvP missions should be restricted to team-queue.
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idnewton
04.21.2014 , 06:56 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
Point is, there are plenty of PvE players farming PvP dailies to get PvP relics, without contributing at all in the PvP match. Not everyone has super carebear knowledge.
That word doesn't mean what you think it does, and you clearly have no idea what BiS is as well.

General rule, if you don't know what a word or term means, it's a good idea to spare yourself potential embarrassment.
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illgot
04.21.2014 , 06:56 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by idnewton View Post
This is why abandonment lockouts need to be implemented, as they were in group finder.

If not, this will simply fail again.
Lock outs don't stop people from leaving a game they think they will lose. Look at warzones. People still leave if they think their team isn't optimal or their team starts losing.

We do not have the population for ranked Warzones to cater only to winning teams.

Bioware already tried rewarding winning teams only, it failed. What makes them think it will work in ranked PvP which has a smaller player base and much smaller teams where every player counts.

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idnewton
04.21.2014 , 06:58 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVengeant View Post
Ranked is about whatever the player want's it to be. Unfortunately too many people seem to think its an ego trip and elitist club. Which it is not. I pay 15 bucks a month for the game
Oh? I thought you unsubbed. At least three times. Ranked is about winning, whether you like it or not.
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