Guardians / Juggs, ED needs a tone down?

Your guardian community seems divided on opinions. You can check this thread to see it yourself. Thanks for keeping this thread at the top.

A group of people can't all agree. Next up your local weather.

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A group of people can't all agree. Next up your local weather.

You've successfully trolled your own thread. GG.

Tbh I don't see an issue with this ability. I mainly play ranged dps and vengeance is pretty much a direct counter to ranged dps. It hits incredibly hard after white dmg buff and is tanky inside of active CD'S all of which are long cool down.
I typically save my biggest burst until the pop ED, then absolutely unload everything. Typically, they either die through it still or are left in execute range again. Its not god mode, and as long as you save big chunky hits for it (heals for 3k each hit. So use abilities that hit more preferably)... Its not a big deal. I'm happy that vengeance got this DCD as I've played one for a long time, and while its been pretty good since 2.5, there were occasional times in ranked group arena where I couldn't cycle my dcd's enough because of too much space between them with too many being weak

Your guardian community seems divided on opinions. You can check this thread to see it yourself. Thanks for keeping this thread at the top.

We are divided.

On one hand you have those who either:

• Feel like this makes us competitive
• Feel like this was well deserved after a period of allegedly being non-competitive, having nothing to do with our own skill level

On the other hand, there are those of us who think:

• It's too much
• It's fun for Guardians.. not so much fun for everyone else (and the last thing we need is Guardians being the new Op healer, or people "unsubbing" or just not playing because it's such a frustrating thing)

Further, the latter is also divided on how to fix the problem before we get nerfed into the ground and pray for the return of Guardian circa 2.4.



ITZNOTOPL2P < worst excuse ever.




Either way, I agree that it will be nerfed. I just hope that everything else isn't nerfed along with it (which is what will probably happen. This is Bioware after all)

Either way, I agree that it will be nerfed. I just hope that everything else isn't nerfed along with it (which is what will probably happen. This is Bioware after all)

Yes. You're the guy that never felt underpowered on your 1.0vigilance/veng like I said before delusional at best..
I don't see any real division amongst guardians/jugs on this subject, just few specials that have picked this as their new
Quibble with the game offering retarded solutions to a non existent problem The reworking of ED/FD is welcomed and I'm positive it won't get changed or nerfed..
You can always remove it from your hot bar if you think its giving you so much advantage.

The ability is fine in its Current form some tips Focus the jug/guard force them too pop it
Switch targets or burst through the heals guards/jugg didn't recive any damage reduction along with this talent
And can die just as fast as they did pre 2.7 I faced a team with 3vengeance jugs and a sniper my team was me vigilance 2combat sents and a gunnery comando and we won we rotated through the juggs forcing them to blow their cooldowns. It's a need buff to this class and by no mean makes us invincible
I still get melted easily once I've popped everything it just allows more uptime that you never got before and vs some comps you still don't get enough. Double sorc double sniper is the hardest comp we have faced since 2.7