Is ESO making a dent in this game?

It's the weekend and I was talking about week day. Even you can't deny numbers have dropped off from where they were even 12 months ago. PoT5 remains light for a much longer period now as well.

I dont think TESO will really do much damage here because for many, the animations and combat are just awful but the real test will be Wildstar which, for PvPers offers so much more than SWTOR does. If only Bioware would wake up and actual design instead of rolling out the usual excuses

so you tell me, what exactly about wildstar PVP are you thinking is going to attract PVPers away from not just TOR, but any other MMO?

then there is the telegraph system that dumbs down PVP and was created for carebears.

wildstar? im am guessing you havnt played any betas if you think that game offers what "real PVPers" want.

top tier PVP is war plots which involved fighting raid bosses and other NPC mobs that PVEers capture.
middle tier PVP is arenas which is basically rock, paper, scissors to the extreme.
bottom tier is BGs.

wildstar PVP action set system makes PVP a joke. action sets trump players skill and gear. if your action set is 'rock' and your opponent's is 'paper' then you are done for, doesn't mater what gear you have or how good you are at PVP.

then there is the telegraph system that dumbs down PVP and was created for carebears.

oh yeah, really great PVP design.

so you tell me, what exactly about wildstar PVP are you thinking is going to attract PVPers away from not just TOR, but any other MMO?

at first, wildstar PVP is fun. but once the novelty wears off and you actually understand how it works, it becomes less and less fun and its not a design that anyone that calls themselves "hardcore" is going to like.

You couldn't be anymore wrong about Warplots lol. Getting to capture a boss is just one small tiny thing about it. Not to mention. The bosses can be used once and then you have to reacquire them. They are not easy to get by any means either. They don't make them god powerful either. If you honestly think the telegraph system "dumbs" down pvp even more than simply tab targeting another player. You haven't played it and are just going off of your basic ideas lol

I will go ahead and tell you right now. They are starting with 10v10 ranked from the get go of the game. 2v2 3v3 5v5 Arenas. That right there is more pvp content than this game will ever have. Not to mention the 40v40 Warplots. You clearly have no clue about how pvp in Wildstar works.

everything I said was true. you can disagree with my opinions about it. but that doesn't change the fact that wildstars top level PVP involves raid bosses and other NPC mobs the are captured in PVE.

who cares how many ranked arenas wildstar has when the most important thing that will decide the outcome of a match is what action set you and your team chooses vs what sets the other team chooses before the match even begins. never played an MMO that takes rock paper scissors to the extreme level wildstar does.

yes, having a big graphic painted on the floor that tells you what is about to happen and where to move to avoid it is about as dumbed down as you can get. go try playing a MMO that has a real fighting game mechanic then come back an try to say wildstars isn't a dumbed down version. even standard MMO combat mechanics requires you to know every skill animation of every class, but also you have to know how each class works so you can anticipate what they are going to do. not in wildstar, you don't need to know anything or even think about anything, just look at the telegraph that tells you what to do.

everything I said was true. you can disagree with my opinions about it. but that doesn't change the fact that wildstars top level PVP involves raid bosses and other NPC mobs the are captured in PVE

Also you have no idea if what you said was true or not. I can personally tell you that out of the 8-10 Warplots I have done I have seen 1 pve boss in there and it gets killed very very fast. Just because when you heard about warplots you heard you can "capture" pve bosses, you automatically assumed that it would be a pve fest. Which it isn't If you did your research into it, instead of making wild accusations you might have a clue.