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Should there be a limit to how high a price on GTN can go?

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Should there be a limit to how high a price on GTN can go?

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morfius
04.10.2014 , 08:53 AM | #71
Let kill what is left from crafting just because we are lazy and spoiled.
No matter if it going to wound whole game, even kill it.
How about NO.

And I don't have any of those 2.7 stuff to craft... but sell many middle level and entry level items.
Price cap that not allow profit - no crafting and very small profit from CM resale = leave game.
Large % cut lost - some times there is just no demand or there is some jerk that drop prices bellow mats cost and I got many of them back... if I am going to loose after 2 non successful sells I will simply stop crafting... and as I don't like to pay real money for pixels (subscription is paying for service) = leave game.
And I will be not only one.
When we don't buy CM pixels from GTN, those that pay for them to get credits will not get credits, therefore stop buying from CM ... and will go to credit sellers instead or leave game.
So BW will going to lose money or raise prices for pixels or stop developing to cut cost... witch will make even more players to leave.

Your laziness and spoiled kid mentality just killed a game... gz.
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CmdrShpd
04.10.2014 , 09:04 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by JamieKirby View Post
I suggest that the deposit costs 25% of the asking price and if it fails to sell, they don't get it back.
That's an insanely bad idea if you want to keep the GTN functional. If something like that were implemented, I and many other people would simply stop selling many things on the GTN at all. Welcome to the new world of resource scarcity!

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MillionsKNives
04.10.2014 , 09:04 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Tungstenses View Post
If anything, your selfish and greedy. I don't think there should be a cap but come on? He wants lower prices and you call him selfish and greedy? Low blow pal, if anything you are just insulting yourself. Just just errrrnnggghh. *cringes*
He's trying to enforce a price on what people can sell their things for. How is that not selfish and greedy?

Imagine if you were having a tag sale and your neighbor came by and started demanding that you lower the price on what you're selling. Then he starts ranting and raving about how the government needs to come in and tell you what price you're allowed to sell your stuff for, because "it's too much" and "you're being too greedy". I'm sure you'd be all for that right?

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DarthTHC
04.10.2014 , 09:09 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
There used to be a limit (kind of) when the deposit was coupled to the listed price instead of the item's vendor value. That way you had to be able to "afford" to list for high prices and it also limited the number of items that could be listed for that high price. The outrageous prices on GTN started to grow in number and actual amount when the deposit was decoupled from the listed price. Personally, I didn't like it, but I guess it was a necessary move for the cartel market to be "successful". And I suspect for that very same reason there won't ever be a limit on how high prices can go.
I agree. I liked this mechanic.

But I see how it could hinder GTN sales. Say a guy with a lot of $ but no credits opens a dye pack and gets the Unicorn - black/black. Under the old system, he couldn't post that for the 5,000,000 credits it's worth.

But I'd still like the mechanic to come back.

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Vandicus
04.10.2014 , 09:12 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I agree. I liked this mechanic.

But I see how it could hinder GTN sales. Say a guy with a lot of $ but no credits opens a dye pack and gets the Unicorn - black/black. Under the old system, he couldn't post that for the 5,000,000 credits it's worth.

But I'd still like the mechanic to come back.
It kept people from "advertising" with 1 billion credit prices, but otherwise the listing deposit was more of a detriment to poorer players. The vast majority of people who sell raiding gear or expensive CM items will hardly notice an increased deposit.
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Kourage
04.10.2014 , 09:51 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Tungstenses View Post
If anything, your selfish and greedy. I don't think there should be a cap but come on? He wants lower prices and you call him selfish and greedy? Low blow pal, if anything you are just insulting yourself. Just just errrrnnggghh. *cringes*
He is selfish and greedy for trying to penny pinch and keep all his credits. But he wants me to give him all my items for hardly any credits. Meanwhile, people are lining up begging me for my items and willing to trade me many more credits!

That's greedy & selfish of him!
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Pagy
04.10.2014 , 09:53 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Tungstenses View Post
If anything, your selfish and greedy. I don't think there should be a cap but come on? He wants lower prices and you call him selfish and greedy? Low blow pal, if anything you are just insulting yourself. Just just errrrnnggghh. *cringes*
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CommanderKeeva
04.10.2014 , 10:17 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by royhenderson View Post
Given 2.7 prices on GTN for dread forged relics for example are insanely expensive. At one point as high as 25 million for focused retribution!

Of course some folks (the really rich folks that have been playing this game for years) can afford that but i assume a very large portion of the game doesn't come close to having that much TOTAL.

I feel that some people on GTN take advantage of others and offer things that are incredibly high in price. underworld relics for example are pretty reasonable and cheap and extremely effective relics yet the difference between both now is more than 10 million.

The fact that some sell dye modules for 5 million when you can get them with cartel coins cheap makes me wonder if there should be limit on certain items.
I'd just like to point out that it has only been two days since they have become reverse-engineerable (is that even a word?). Craftable Underworld items have been out since last summer. If you're patient and wait a few weeks at most, enough guilds will reverse-engineer the DF items for their prices to drop to reasonable levels. Especially, now that Hard and Nightmare modes have separate lockouts, many guilds will do progression in NiM, while continuing to do HM for drops and schematics. I'd say, in fact, your chances of getting high-quality cheap items have never been better.

Just a personal story: 10 minutes after 2.7 launched one person offered to craft an Advanced Reflex Barrel 34 for materials and three million credits. Did I want the barrel? Hell yeah! Could I have afforded the absurd price? Yes. Did I actually pay it? No, because roughly in an hour so many people RE'd them that they were crafting it for only materials and no crafting fee. Did patience pay off? Yes.

This stands true for all items. Crafting prices will drop considerably in the coming weeks until they reach a reasonable equilibrium. Just as mass manipulation generators have gone down to 500k from 1,5 million since Tuesday.

P.S.: Obroan relics are almost as good as Dread Forged relics. Brutalizer relics might even be better, I don't know. But both relics are completetly free, you can use them until DF SA and FR relics become cheaper.
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SunsetStarship
04.10.2014 , 10:32 AM | #79
No

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errant_knight
04.10.2014 , 01:47 PM | #80
The limit is not being a mark. If someone is trying to bleed you, don't pay it. There's nothing on the gtn that you can't acquire another way. That being said, there are troll listers who list for lunatic prices for the lolz. Don't confuse their prices for real ones. If your talking about something in the 3-7 mil range, that's not actually that high. you can make a mil in around 4 days, just doing dailies. And keep any eye out for bargains. Bide your time. The market has cycles and there are also people who just want a quick sale or don't bother to check the going rate.