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Stealthing out of the middle of PvP combat = terrible

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Stealthing out of the middle of PvP combat = terrible

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Candy
12.25.2011 , 02:22 AM | #21
Hi. I'm a Shadow.

Now that the OP hates me, I'll give you some advice. Stealth classes are ridiculously easy to pop out of stealth in this game, and they can be seen relatively easy even when they're in stealth if they're close enough to someone.

Use DoT's. Any damage will knock us out of stealth.

Bad Game Mechanic? It's what the class is, we're a stealth class. That's a F ridiculous thing to QQ about. OMG it's a gun, it's a broken mechanic because it actually shoots and is performing the function it was intended to do....ZOMG!

L2P and you wouldn't have to worry about stealth classes popping ICS on you.
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Draemos
12.25.2011 , 02:23 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Hecantonchire View Post
I agree with the OP. Tank specs aren't going to have a dot.
They do have an AoE though. Plus, they are a tank, they already counter Operatives/Assassins.

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Avip
12.25.2011 , 02:45 AM | #23
I mean this in a constructive way. Go play a stealth class for awhile and learn to play it. As a shadow I have no problem getting other stealthers back out 80% or more of the time. Just have to know what they are thinking.

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Candy
12.25.2011 , 02:48 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Avip View Post
I mean this in a constructive way. Go play a stealth class for awhile and learn to play it. As a shadow I have no problem getting other stealthers back out 80% or more of the time. Just have to know what they are thinking.
^This.
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Zederok
12.25.2011 , 03:01 AM | #25
Force cloak is complete garbage unless you also use force shroud in conjunction because at my level of 27 I have never successfully completed a force cloak (vanish) while in combat due to all the freaking garbage dots/aoes going around.

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Xippin
12.25.2011 , 04:43 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by zaboteur View Post
again, another clear example that BIOWARE has ZERO clue how to do PVP.

How the hell is someone just going to stealth out of the middle of a battle?! Either this effect should not happen in combat, or you need to be able to see them for 1-2 seconds after they stealth.

Pretty bad to try to open world pvp when a bunch of players can just stealth out of the battle and run away with no problems.

This just kinda ruins world pvp for me.

I mean if I am attacking someone in melee, and they insta-stealth, let me see them if they are next to me, or make their skill a 1-2 sec to activate so they cant just disappear while in the middle of a melee fight. Or give them 1/2 stealth for 1-3 seconds.

Very bad experience that my 1st open pvp world fight, ended with the dude just stealthing away in mid battle when I was winning. While invis he was able to easily go into his normal stealth and that was that. Very disappointing to say the least.

If he was winning I would have died, it is not like players lose anything on death, so why give so much advantage to an already good dps/tanking class.
I wouldn't have an issue with giving up my in combat stealth (disappearing act) if you replace it with a the knockback and sprint that SI's have. Currently as a smuggler healer, I have 4 "escape/save me" options (5 but one is broken).

Smuggler Survival Abilities (at level 28)

1. 4 second stun; single target; 4 meter range; 45 second cooldown
- 4 seconds...am I going to get out of range of anything in 4 seconds...no

2. 8 second AoE Mez: breaks on any dmg; 10 meter range; 1:30 cooldown
- breaks on ANY and ALL damage...AoE spammers are the bane of this ability

3. 12 second duration snare (single target); 4 meter range; 12 second cooldown
- COOL! I have to get in melee range to use it so they can light saber my face!

4. Disappearing Act (in combat stealth); 3 minute cooldown
- 3 Minute cooldown is reasonable considering how easily people can see through stealth. Only DECENT ability we have for survival.

*5. Dodge (Broken- doesn't actually work) 3 Seconds of 100% dodge for melee/ranged attacks.

I would give ALL of it up for the SI sprint and SI knockback. (Not to mention SI's have spammable snare, stun, whirlwind, root, and bubble all by level 20.

How can you really complain about in combat stealth, you couldn't catch an SI if they didn't want you too...look at most huttball matches, they are near impossible to catch.
Xippin - BH: Powertech; Shield Tech / Smuggler: Scoundrel; Scrapper

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Xippin
12.25.2011 , 04:47 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by nomanking View Post
That is the only thing i hated and pissed me off . Im sniper and i do only burst dmg with 1 dot ability. Now i cant spec a different tree just so i can have more dot abilities. The dot ability does literally no dmg. Its annoying how they can disappear during cmb
so because you don't "want" to use the dot ability because it does so little damage...another class should be nerfed? grow up.
Xippin - BH: Powertech; Shield Tech / Smuggler: Scoundrel; Scrapper

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anasa
12.25.2011 , 05:04 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by zaboteur View Post
again, another clear example that BIOWARE has ZERO clue how to do PVP.

How the hell is someone just going to stealth out of the middle of a battle?! Either this effect should not happen in combat, or you need to be able to see them for 1-2 seconds after they stealth.

Pretty bad to try to open world pvp when a bunch of players can just stealth out of the battle and run away with no problems.

This just kinda ruins world pvp for me.

I mean if I am attacking someone in melee, and they insta-stealth, let me see them if they are next to me, or make their skill a 1-2 sec to activate so they cant just disappear while in the middle of a melee fight. Or give them 1/2 stealth for 1-3 seconds.

Very bad experience that my 1st open pvp world fight, ended with the dude just stealthing away in mid battle when I was winning. While invis he was able to easily go into his normal stealth and that was that. Very disappointing to say the least.

If he was winning I would have died, it is not like players lose anything on death, so why give so much advantage to an already good dps/tanking class.

So you are butthurt because your opponent run away, and this mean that BW has "ZERO CLUE HOW TO DO PVP".
Dot them or pop them with AOE after they vanish if your face, but planning ahead or reacting fast has no place if your butthurt mind.

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Dietyz
12.25.2011 , 05:11 AM | #29
man you would HATE rikimaru
Han solo mid or feed

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lethal_ghost
12.25.2011 , 05:15 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by WasabiJack View Post
This ability is only amazing vs complete noobs.

Anyone even slightly skilled/experienced will put a dot on you or aoe you out.

I would not mind if they removed this ability and added one to give a speed boost, much easier to run away with speed boost than stealth.
this

many other mmo pvp have a class that can do this a dot or aoe quick works well