Is it done? Are they gone?

becasue
"this game is a horrible failure"
"developers hate us"
"this game sucks and you are dumb for enjoying it"
"this ****** game will die once "insert upcoming game here" is released"
etc etc

are all such constructive critiques meant to improve them game amirite?

ruined. ruined. that word gets overused a lot.
fixed. arm chair developers are sooo much fun >_> people who think they know better than everyone else and who think their personal preferences trump those of multiple other people, so helpful, sooo useful. I especially love people who in the same breath accuse the game of copying some other game AND asking for this game to be more like that game they just accused SWTOR of copying.

incidentally, and I may have said it before, but playing ESO is painfully reminding me why I'm not a fan of MMO's depending on addons for their features >_>

I like how people said that ESO will kill SW:TOR.

31.03 - Tython - around 80 people online at around 1pm gmt ( +1 )
01.04 - Tython - same server, same time, around 140-150 people ( middle of working day )

I know it's just one planet, but i think that this clearly shows that this game is now dead.

People get frustrated when its been over 2 years and swtor devs are still making the same mistakes that lost them 3/4 of their subs in the first 6 months.

And I think eso addons are awesome, Relying on players for some features is definitely better than biowares philosophy of just not having the features.

I cant imagine how well swtor would have done if addons were available at launch and we didn't have to wait almost a year for things like combat logs. But I don't think youll ever have to worry about addons in swtor, they don't even have the ability to make cross server ques for pvp much less something as complicated as addons.

you see, what you consider to be mistakes? I consider to be strengths. no addons is a good thing for SWTOR. I'm glad developers are adding quality of life features themselves, rather than open this can of worms known as addons

it took me over an hour, just to get my damn essential addons working. and by essential, I mean something that I get in SWTOR without even THINKING. aka - ability to track multiple quests, ability to see my current buff (I've been cooking and eating pies in case you are wondering) and ability to have a minimap. and after today's maintenance (that is still ongoing, so much for smooth launches - though honestly, I did expect snags. that's part of an mmo after all) - I expect them to break for a while again. and even with getting them to work, I was still getting errors on login, aaah, flashbacks.

I'm not using addons because I want to, I'm using them because I'm left with no other choice becasue base UI DOESN'T OFFER THE FUNCTIONALITY and developers show no desire to add quality of life features since "addon makers will take care of it" at least at this time.

MMO addons are a gosh darn crutch. they are one of the few flies in the ointment that is ESO for me currently (I'm enjoying it for the most part and honestly can only shake my head at some of the IMO ridiculous hate its been getting)

as for SWTOR and inability to add cross server queues? they would be better off trying to figure out how to let people queue for multiple activities at the same time, particularly ranked and unranked at the same time.

no cross server queue for pve? again, you may consider it a mistake? I personally consider it a strength and if there's one thing that will definitively drive me away from SWTOR - its addition of cross server queues for pve (pvp I'm ambivalent on, but like I said, multiple queue would solve a lot more issues)

so this refusal of developers to fix so called mistakes? is just a matter of perspective and I will insist its NOT what drove people away. it lack of content updates at the pace they wanted coupled with the usual MMO ebb and flow that is typical (even for WoW - that gets influx of players once content is released that ebbs after few months, it just managed to get a higher baseline player base being in the right place at the right time)

but anyways, "people are getting frustrated" is neither an excuse to just bash, nor does it make bashing into constructive criticism. there's no discussion when bashing begins. there is not "fixing" things when the person just goes - this is a horrible game and I hate it.

Youre exactly right, its just that 1.5 million people agreed with me. A couple of hundred thousand agree with you or like me also have been overlooking the absence of modern mmo features because its the only Star Wars mmo we have.

It took me 2 minutes to d/l my addons and have them working perfectly ON THE FIRST DAY no less lol. And yes ESO also has some essential mmo features missing, but they do have an excuse. Its trying to be skyrim, a mistake imo but atleast its a legit reason unlike biowares reason of "we don't think an mmo needs that" and atleast they are letting players customize the features to make the game they like.

you are ASSUMING they agreed with you. and I say - my reasoning has just as much if not more merit. I see very few people complain about lack of addons (mostly you and few others) but I saw a lot more people complaining about lack of content. and I see people migrating from MMO to MMO staying only for few months - ALL the damn time.

and lucky you. I had to reinstall the same addon 3 times before it would work (ZrMiniMap in case you are curious) and I was still getting errors with it on login, even after following maker's instructions on how to possibly fix those. I've given up on major UI addons for now. and even for that, I had to download ANOTHER damn separate addon manager. I had to give up on getting anything from nexus or curse becasue consolidating addons is for suckers apparently - we need more websites, MORE addon managers >_>

people are already complaining about ESO breaking promises. as much as it pains me (I do like the game, addons notwithstanding) - its only a matter of time before it goes through the same exact influx, then loss of players that SWTOR and every other MMO have experienced, before evening out with their actual intended playerbase which may or may not be smaller than what developers would have prefered.

there will be complaints about lack of content, there will be complaints about lack of balance, there will be complaints about everything under the sun, hell I've even seen accusation of it "playing just like WoW" no, I kid you not. not that I'm surprised to be honest, I think the only MMO that didn't get that accusation thrown its way (at least not that I've seen) - was EVE.

I don't base my reasoning on people complaining on a message board, 99% of them don't complain, they just leave. Well they did leave swtor and they didn't come back, so im ASSUMING the problems havent been fixed.

Did you read the guys notes on zr minimap? he said he just made it on the fly and its pretty buggy still so I didn't evn d/l it. If the game has been out a week and it still doesn't work I would start getting worried but its still early release, im just happy I was able to log in with no ques and actually play from day 1 unlike other games ive played at release.

And yes people will complain about eso non stop it happens in every game. But we will see if they lose 1.5 million subs in their first 6 months and that will tell if their complaints are valid or not.

its about the morons who troll incessantly like a certain few who create 50 accounts just to keep trying to incite fires who we all know who it is but I am not technically allowed to name, or their friends who when something is announced for instance, start complaining about how bad it is going to be without even knowing any of the details saying random stuff just to get people agitated, that is who we are talking about, and they say every time a new game comes out they are out of here, but then, shocker shocker, these certain people always come back. I am not saying its wrong to complain or criticize, but there are trolls who take advantage and spread misinformation and just love getting people angry who we are talking about.

Hello
I was in ESO. i was in early access.
I start almost every new big mmo like GW2,Tera,sw,aion ..
I was happy on start , i make maximum lvl on my characters,but on ESO i feel like i want kill my self.This quests are so long . 3 -5 steps quest on 15 min with so low xp reward and u cant select item reward. I dont want play this game anymore pay2play or Free2play. I dont care,this is boring like hell.

believe that most people will come beck here or their favorite mmo soon

ah, yes, so the lengthy maintenance that JUST brought the server back online doesn't count, yes? of course not.

I'm happy I've been able to play on day one, but I also got to do same with SWTOR, so... that minimap addon is not the only one that I had trouble with, its just one of the few that I kept trying to get to work. I was lucky though, only got kicked out twice while I was playing, there were people who couldn't log in at all, there were people whose game crushed on them every half an hour or less. I'm also apparently one of the few lucky ones that was able to complete that Vukhel guard quest before they apparently just removed it indefinitely :/
bugs and maintenance is something I kinda expected to be honest, I'm surprised the game isn't buggier than it is already, but not everyone is as mellow.

and again, MMO tourists leaving doesn't validate their complaints. MMO tourists leaving is expected and par of the course. you can NOT please MMO tourists.