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ZahirS
03.30.2014 , 09:20 PM | #41
So we all agree?

People dont want Strong holds, they really want them, Devs only give what we really want because they are smart people.

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03.30.2014 , 11:27 PM | #42
I just thought of something.

When it comes to chat... maby they wont tie it in with fleet (I doubt they will), but they might, however, tie it in with all other strongholds.
So anyone who is in a stronghold will be on the same channel (like fleet).

This would make it work just like fleet for grouping purposes and the likes.

ps. sorry for any spelling errors, still sick.
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03.31.2014 , 02:06 AM | #43
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03.31.2014 , 06:09 AM | #44
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We know that your stronghold is bragging rights - so like a trophy hall. We know said hall will have a label which will reflect achievements. We know that the strongholds will provide the - likely only - access to legacy storage which is a HUGE quality of life improvement for anyone with alts, and we know that other people can join you in your stronghold, which again is a HUGE QoL improvement for anyone who has ever roleplayed. Heck, a troll-free environment is so valuable RPers were using the fleet's VIP area as a meeting place and access to that is 1 mil right there. That's how important this is.
Are people really that rude to RPers? Like, to the point they need refuge somewhere like a House? Wow, TOR community is hitting a new low. I see people RP and it's fun seeing them do it. Kind of gives a more Star Wars feel to the game. If this helps the RPers then this expansion is more the useful. Hopefully we get some legacy bank so it's easier to transfer money and stuff. Maybe have a Legacy storage to pass items too.
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03.31.2014 , 08:47 AM | #45
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Are people really that rude to RPers? Like, to the point they need refuge somewhere like a House? Wow, TOR community is hitting a new low. I see people RP and it's fun seeing them do it. Kind of gives a more Star Wars feel to the game. If this helps the RPers then this expansion is more the useful. Hopefully we get some legacy bank so it's easier to transfer money and stuff. Maybe have a Legacy storage to pass items too.
People are rude to RP'ers in all games basically.

It's not the majority, most people just leave RP'ers to it, but there are always some who seem to trigger on it and go out of their way to ruin it.
Even to such an extent that they actively go to RP servers just to disrupt.

But mostly RP'ers just want a place where they can get away from all the non-RP chatting that goes on, and the jumping, messing about and whatnot.

ps. I don't RP, I just play on RP servers because the players tend to be more mature overall.
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03.31.2014 , 09:33 AM | #46
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Are people really that rude to RPers? Like, to the point they need refuge somewhere like a House? Wow, TOR community is hitting a new low. I see people RP and it's fun seeing them do it. Kind of gives a more Star Wars feel to the game. If this helps the RPers then this expansion is more the useful. Hopefully we get some legacy bank so it's easier to transfer money and stuff. Maybe have a Legacy storage to pass items too.
Yes they are, from minor annoyances such as following RPers around and dancing naked on them, to jumping around swinging sabres, doing the Bounty Hunter Flamethrower spin, if its something disruptive that can be done, they will gleefully do it.

Then we have the anti-rpers who will just follow rpers around and mock everything said and done. There are also the sickos who go around pretending to rp, but only emoting/saying disgusting things. Again, you can out them on ignore, but they tend to be lord of the flies and go in packs.

Being on the internet with no real reprocussions brings out the douchebag that normal society usualy restrains.

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03.31.2014 , 09:47 AM | #47
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Yes they are, from minor annoyances such as following RPers around and dancing naked on them, to jumping around swinging sabres, doing the Bounty Hunter Flamethrower spin, if its something disruptive that can be done, they will gleefully do it.
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People are rude to RP'ers in all games basically.
Report them. Anyone acting like that is likely prepubescent or just....just a fool (I'd use other words here, but I don't want to get banned).

Nobody cares what activity you enjoy in a video game. There's no right or wrong way to play an MMO. Nobody is better than someone else for what they elect to do.

RPers should stand up for themselves - be less intimidated - be proud of how you play and don't back down from it. Stop being overly sensitive when some twit mocks you and pretends what he/she does is somehow better. It's NOT! We're all playing the same game, we all like different stuff. Don't EVER be bullied.
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03.31.2014 , 09:55 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
I just thought of something.

When it comes to chat... maby they wont tie it in with fleet (I doubt they will), but they might, however, tie it in with all other strongholds.
So anyone who is in a stronghold will be on the same channel (like fleet).

This would make it work just like fleet for grouping purposes and the likes.

ps. sorry for any spelling errors, still sick.
Player Ships for each class already do this to an extent. So I would definitely guess all Strongholds on the same planet would have the same general chat at the very least.

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03.31.2014 , 10:23 AM | #49
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As will the guild shops most likely; everyone will still be running laps around the fleet.
That would be the most interesting point for me, too. If staying in the stronghold isolates us from the main social hub (fleet) the way staying on our ships does, then they seem pretty impractical and having access to the legacy bank restricted to the stronghold would diminish its attractiveness and usefulness greatly.

I often stay on fleet crafting and tending to various businesses while watching chat and more or less spontaneously joining activities or waiting for group finder pops. Constantly switching characters to mail resources back and forth makes it hard to follow conversations (any conversation, be it /party, /whisper, /guild or /general) and get a group finder pop. I was hoping for a legacy bank to reduce the frequency of switching, but if the bank is only accessible in the strongholds, it pretty much doesn't change the situation at all.
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03.31.2014 , 10:25 AM | #50
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That would be the most interesting point for me, too. If staying in the stronghold isolates us from the main social hub (fleet) the way staying on our ships does, then they seem pretty impractical and having access to the legacy bank restricted to the stronghold would diminish its attractiveness and usefulness greatly.

I often stay on fleet crafting and tending to various businesses while watching chat and more or less spontaneously joining activities or waiting for group finder pops. Constantly switching characters to mail resources back and forth makes it hard to follow conversations (any conversation, be it /party, /whisper, /guild or /general) and get a group finder pop. I was hoping for a legacy bank to reduce the frequency of switching, but if the bank is only accessible in the strongholds, it pretty much doesn't change the situation at all.
I anticipate that the Dev will either connect Strongholds with Fleet's Gen Chat, or if the vast majority of players move to Strongholds, then Coruscant's/DK's Gen Chat will become the 'new' Gen Chat used for pugging Ops and whatnot.
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