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SWTOR Housing = Boring Rift Dimensions.

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SWTOR Housing = Boring Rift Dimensions.

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Josewales
03.26.2014 , 07:33 PM | #1
I was sub'd to Rift when dimensions got patched in awhile back. The new SWTOR housing sure smells like a Rift's sideshow that so many Rift subs wanted. A month after, most forgot about their sandboxes. If Bioware wants to copy interactive player made models of others, they should of studied CoX player made sandboxes when they had a chance (game died last year). Where missions & bases were very interactive and creative for all to share and play. So far from the very little info...all SWTOR housing will be is a Cartel money maker and appeal to the small minority of players. Mean while the greater numbers in pvp'ers been waiting for a war or improvements to pvp.

So much potential but once again BW will probably fall flat on it's face.....isn't that SWTOR theme anyways? As soon as BW announced, again I didnt expect much except a cash cow and minions trying their best for others to visit their new digs. If players can design their own missions or even BG's to pvp in as random ques for all to play in...then I will spend a few bucks to support BW's pockets via coins.

Again I doubt BW seriously studied other MMO models besides WoW. If they did, they had me fooled ever since launch. They probably got bored & played a free trial for once....and said "we can easily do that with one designer":P Point is unless it's cartel coins they are selling, anything they do feels like a watered down model or concept from previous MMOs.

/yawn

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JimG
03.26.2014 , 07:51 PM | #2
Yeah, because Rift invented player housing, lol. Player housing is a relatively common feature in MMOs. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean the game needs to be catered to your personal taste. By that logic, a lot of us don't PVP so I guess they should just get rid of PVP. They've added a lot of PVP stuff since launch and the entire GSF addition is PVP. No need to whine about it just because there's an update that doesn't focus on the aspect of the game that you like. They have to spread things around in these updates.

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Magnusheart
03.26.2014 , 07:51 PM | #3
Only a few content types I wish Swtor had from other MMOS



Toy item tab- WoW
Dye System GW's
Class ship changeing and open world flight in space. - S.W.G.
Non Combat Macros- WoW
Chat Bubbles- WoW.

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illgot
03.26.2014 , 08:18 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by JimG View Post
Yeah, because Rift invented player housing, lol. Player housing is a relatively common feature in MMOs. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean the game needs to be catered to your personal taste. By that logic, a lot of us don't PVP so I guess they should just get rid of PVP. They've added a lot of PVP stuff since launch and the entire GSF addition is PVP. No need to whine about it just because there's an update that doesn't focus on the aspect of the game that you like. They have to spread things around in these updates.
For the most part, in past games, player housing was functional.

Ultima Online: used for storage, you added in crafting stations and skill up training dummies, you opened your house up to random player so they could use your crafting stations and training dummies. You stocked your venders and sold items to players, you even used the house to hide from PKers. Houses were also placed next to resources so you could step outside and hit the mine fairly quickly instead of running from the city to the mine half way across the map.

Star Wars Galaxies: everything above plus you used it as a station to gather your harvesters.

Asheron's Call: Mostly storage.

SWTOR: There doesn't seem to be any more functionality a house provides that you can not get from Fleet.

For me the house needs to be functional. Not something that is only created so they can turn around and sell fluff on the Cartel Market.

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DarthDymond
03.26.2014 , 08:40 PM | #5
I don't think any MMO prior to Rift had ever given me a stronger sense of "nope, no way I'll ever subscribe to that game" right out of the gate. Even after I ended up giving it a chance anyway, playing either a bit of the beta or a free weekend or something (honestly don't remember which) because my roommate wanted me to try it with him, all that ended up doing was confirming my initial impression.

But when I heard about the Home Dimensions content they added, and saw previews/reviews on how that worked, I seriously considered giving the game another shot. It struck me as something I would have a lot of fun with. That still sticks out in my head as an example of how a new and interesting feature might be enough to attract players even if the core game isn't that strong a product.

With SWTOR - a game I already like - adding something like that, I am really looking forward to it, "functional" aspect or not. This is just something I see myself enjoying and spending a significant amount of playing around with in between dailies, casual PVP, and occasional raiding on my main or leveling alts.
One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate, and thus defy the tyrannous stars. ~Kain

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ZooMzy
03.26.2014 , 08:46 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
SWTOR: There doesn't seem to be any more functionality a house provides that you can not get from Fleet.

For me the house needs to be functional. Not something that is only created so they can turn around and sell fluff on the Cartel Market.
Someone needs to take a look at the actual post the developers have made in introducing strongholds.

Legacy storage is going to only be available through player housing, as a main feature. So, considering how in the preview they have announced a major plus for the houses that isn't even remotely close to useless, I'd say your attempt to downplay housing is not very accurate.

Either way, my own personal opinion is that housing is a good addition to get people off those Fleets and back into the actual galaxy maps. Really no reason to leave the Fleet as a 55, and getting people back out into the game would do wonders in areas the devs probably haven't even have considered.

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DarthDymond
03.26.2014 , 08:54 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Either way, my own personal opinion is that housing is a good addition to get people off those Fleets and back into the actual galaxy maps. Really no reason to leave the Fleet as a 55, and getting people back out into the game would do wonders in areas the devs probably haven't even have considered.
I'm outright excited for the advent of player housing, but I seriously doubt that getting people out into the game worlds is going to be a result of this feature.

Even if they don't release a "Fast Transport" option to go straight to your Stronghold, I expect most people visiting them will be making a straight shot to and from the housing instance without paying the least bit of attention to the rest of the planet it is on.

If the chat channel is linked to the planet itself, that may have a genuine impact in this regard, but it's just as likely to either be a separate chat for "Strongholds" in general, or even the option to link back to Fleet chat. At least I hope there's some sort of interconnected chat that way, or forming PUGs is about to get a lot more difficult.

Ultimately, I don't expect the housing instances to have any more tangible connection to their planets than Black Hole does to the rest of Corellia.
One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate, and thus defy the tyrannous stars. ~Kain

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Brisselio
03.26.2014 , 09:17 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Someone needs to take a look at the actual post the developers have made in introducing strongholds.

Legacy storage is going to only be available through player housing, as a main feature. So, considering how in the preview they have announced a major plus for the houses that isn't even remotely close to useless, I'd say your attempt to downplay housing is not very accurate.

Either way, my own personal opinion is that housing is a good addition to get people off those Fleets and back into the actual galaxy maps. Really no reason to leave the Fleet as a 55, and getting people back out into the game would do wonders in areas the devs probably haven't even have considered.
Alright so Legacy storage. Are there going to be any other perks? Can I get more rested xp at my house than I can anywhere else in the game?

If you can't get more rest xp from your house it seems sort of pointless while leveling up atleast. Aside from the trips to get things from the legacy bank. Also customization will play a huge factor in it. If the customization isn't there I don't feel it will be all it can be.

Getting players out into the world is awesome but keeping them in their own instanced houses doesn't do anything for that world.

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illgot
03.26.2014 , 09:18 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Someone needs to take a look at the actual post the developers have made in introducing strongholds.

Legacy storage is going to only be available through player housing, as a main feature. So, considering how in the preview they have announced a major plus for the houses that isn't even remotely close to useless, I'd say your attempt to downplay housing is not very accurate.

Either way, my own personal opinion is that housing is a good addition to get people off those Fleets and back into the actual galaxy maps. Really no reason to leave the Fleet as a 55, and getting people back out into the game would do wonders in areas the devs probably haven't even have considered.
They mentioned legacy storage but did not state it would be only available in the house. Do you really think that legacy storage will only be accessible via the house?

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Khevar
03.26.2014 , 10:01 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Legacy storage is going to only be available through player housing, as a main feature.
(emphasis added by me). This is an alteration of what is actually stated:
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Legacy Stronghold Storage – Unlock access to a new type of storage that is shared across your entire Legacy!
It's entirely possible that once unlocked, it is available from the fleet as well.
Quote: Originally Posted by illgot View Post
They mentioned legacy storage but did not state it would be only available in the house. Do you really think that legacy storage will only be accessible via the house?
Exactly.