Devs at the latest cantina: Class Story, not at the moment...

I'm not going to say that I don't agree with the concept, because I do. But that's a dangerous path to embark on, as certain players will actually be offended that their favorite class wasn't the Chosen One. Asking someone to wait to be the fourth (per faction) to get the hero story is... a lot to ask.

Is that too much to ask?

Now that's a strawman to say the least, but given your knowledge of the game's lore, it's not surprising.

Darth Marr is the Head of the Sphere of the Empire's Defense yet it is known he took an active role on the front, in the early days of the war.

Darth Hadra was the head of the Sphere of Technology and Darth Acheron was the head of Biotic Science. Both were on Corellia at the time the Republic was pushing back the Empire, in order to help securing the planet once and for all.

See what I mean? Try harder.

Again, the point flies right over your head.

Not really.

People say that going to Makeb and helping the Empire securing the Isotope-5 does not fit a Dark Council member. I have shown otherwise, namely by pointing out past events where members of the Dark Council have taken an active role, outside their sphere of influence.

Not that hard to grasp I say.

I definitely agree, reading these forums, asking someone to wait is too much to ask. It will be a huge slap in the face to players whose favorite class is one of the 7 non-chosen ones each time!

Another way to do it is to tailor some NPC dialog to the class talking to them. Maybe do it in 10% of the conversations. Mention class accomplishments, titles, etc. Immerse the player more deeply.

Not really, you just keep inferring things that I didn't explicitly say, hence a straw man. Just because you strongly disagree with me doesn't mean you get to jump on your high horse and say I'm "returning to my old ways." A disagreement can simply be a disagreement.

As far as how that makes sense, this is a business. Bioware only promised the class stories 1-50 were F2P. That doesn't mean every single story content, class or otherwise, should be free going forward. In fact, originally Makeb wasn't free, and I paid for it. So did a lot of others. It was an expansion pack.

I am seriously trying to follow your logic here - so are you saying that what you said to me, you'll say the same thing to Bioware and be very upset with them if they say, come December, we have this new digital expansion pack with a new planet and new stories, and its going to cost you all 19.99 to play it (9.99 if you pre-order)? And then 6-12 months down the line be mad at them when they at that point convert it over to free?

Because I don't recall you being outraged at them doing this with Makeb.

Or is it that you only want generic faction quests, because you don't want to pay for anything post 50 that has class flavor, because the first 50 levels are free in terms of class story?

So tell me. What is your beef specifically?

Not a strawman. Now you are just saying that because I said it.

Being serious here, but might I suggest a breather? Things were fine before, but when you get heated up you seem to kind of wander all over the place, and suddenly a friendly debate-discussion turns into you trying to win an argument.



*EDIT* and to your Sith point, my retort is since when have sith all been on the same page or doing the same thing? Some like war, some like to pursue their own interests. Enjoying being a War General wasn't a part of the sith inquisitor storyline. Just because some dark council members do it and some sith do it, doesn't mean they all do, and what we know about sith, it actually makes it less likely they are all of like minds.

Now you're getting what I'm on about. That would go so far to enriching the game!

My point is the same from the very beginning, so I'll just copy / paste:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showp...&postcount=252