Devs at the latest cantina: Class Story, not at the moment...

Metrics are useful, but they can only take you so far. The problem with them in this case is that the 0-50 leveling content is not easily done with a group. With class quests being instanced, you frequently end up in an area, and splitting up to do your class quests separately. Grouping is necessary for flashpoints and heroics, and useful for planet and side quests. But the class quests basically actively discourage grouping while leveling. This is especially true for the various sequences where you travel on your ship to some sort of station.

And that's my fear. And please, keep in mind, I am not dismissing the wonderful content that is Makeb, Oricon, Dread Fortress and Dread Palace.

But really my fear is that Story questing will be forgotten about in year and a half - 3/4 stretches (which is roughly what we are looking at if the "Makeb-style expansion" happens in winter), only to be given a small planet ala makeb with a very bland story ala makeb that dismisses what occurred in the class stories other than a name-dropping one liner, like what was done in Makeb.

I am certainly not saying the devs should be a slave to the class stories - but just at the very least remain true to the spirit of them, and at best, use them for inspiration in an expansion - perhaps the next faction story is one where it is "agent/smuggler" centric, and the other classes tag along, and the one after is the "knight/warrior" themed, where everyone tags along. Think Avengers, but with each expansion focusing on one class to stand out in the story but in a faction setting, using class stories as inspiration.

For example:

Sith Warrior

Then the next expansion, the Agent takes center stage, then BH, then Inquisitor, etc. And for the republic side, just do the same with the same class type: Knight/Warrior, Commando/Bounty Hunter, Smuggler/Agent, Inquisitor/Consular.

If it is well written and defers well to the class stories, it can be a way to keep the spirit alive while still developing faction stories.

/Agree.

As for this topic... it's been polled here in the forum. Each forum member was allowed to select 5 content types in that poll to express their interests in future content. In that poll 60% of players self-polled with more class story as one of their 5 choices (note: we have not idea of their ranked selections within their 5, could have been number 1, number 5, or anywhere in between). The poll shows that class story is a popular content choice among players. They have also made it clear that they are NOT going the route of more class story at this time. Most players in the forum are adults with common sense and a grasp of facts (even if they refuse to demonstrate this inside a gaming forum), they know that the future play in this game will not include "new" class story. However, we do indeed get new story arcs.. just that they are faction based.

Some players do not like this, and some will even quit over it. But the majority will not.. as most players are not single content players (no matter what they tell you). Most players (that actually care) have expressed their views, have heard the feedback on this from the Devs, and have accepted it at face value and will continue to play for reasons other then class story.

Well...we all have different taste. Lol While liver is not even allowed in my house, I prefer my chittlins covered in hot sauce & my greens cooked with pork neck bones. And even tho bourbon is cool, I'm a cognac man myself.

Back on topic tho, none of us know the exact number of ppl still playing as subs who want more class specific stories. If there's ever a cantina event near Memphis, TN I promise y'all I'll be there and that'll be my first question. Until then I'll follow my grandfathers advice. "Speak up and you may be heard, keep quiet and you guarantee no-one will EVER hear you." So I'll continue to tell the devs that "there are a lot of us who want more class specific stories, controller/joystick support for GSF, and more interaction with companion characters."

Actually, it lends credence that most people have quit the game, instead of moving forward.

But hey, that's how you like it. Only those who agree with you can stay, the rest can go rot.

Did people leave because they were tired of the existing endgame? I'm sure they did. People also left because they'd finished what class content there was. And they left because pvp was very poorly handled. (I was on a pvp server when the delay for season 1 was announced and my server lost close to half it's population overnight.) And people left because SWtOR wasn't their cup of tea. During the days of hemorrhaging subs, the number one complaint though was that there were too many servers and not enough people on them.

All MMOs have a significant drop off after 1 month. It is to be expected. However, Bioware had gone crazy and made extra servers so no one would have to wait to log in at launch. A snow ball formed rolling down hill. People were leaving because there weren't enough people per server to do group content. At that time there wasn't even a group finder to help out. What did Bioware do? They added the APAC servers to further depopulate the other ones. Bioware took bloody forever to implement group finder, character transfers and server mergers.

Group finder and characters transfers should have in place at launch or soon after, they are both pretty standard features in MMOs. There should also have been a plan in place for server mergers, and clearly there wasn't since it took so very long for them to implement them. People were extremely frustrated at being stuck on dead servers. They could either re-roll to a different server or quit. Not a good place to put your subscribers.

Abou what OP said:
It is indeed a very big mistake, and you guys need to seriously step outside of your caves.
This is a story driven MMO, and is still announced as such, and while only 5 levels could be a poor excuse of no class quest with more evels it fails.
Makeb was one of the most hated planets I have ever herar of, I have been in three guilds, plus am friends with many other guilds and people only go there when strictly necessary, no one wants to repeat the storyline, because it's only one time fun, after that it's excruciating.

Second you should respect particularly who asks for class quest, because they almost always subscribe when you cry for more pvp, more ops more, GSF or whatever anything you always criyng about, most of these players are not hardcore anything and love to enjoy content as a hole.

I understand most of you don't want to do class quest but seriously bashing it is so sad as not being able to play with some chars on pvp and criyng for nerfs to every other AC,.

Remember many, MANY people have left due to the lack of class quest, and many more will if they continue with this decision. Bioware is scarred of that, just watch whenever they answer this they doge the question, they never say WOC or anithing like it because so many people are still here for it.

If you like this game you should support OP not bash him

This is what I mean about subjective inaccuracies masking fact.

Ahem.... they have not abandoned story driven content. The CHANGED story driven content.

CHANGED FROM: Class Story Arcs
CHANGED TO: Faction Story Arcs.

You don't have to have class story arcs to have story driven content.. you can do it other ways. This is what Bioware has been reiterating in every Cantina and Q&A interaction with customers for more then a year now. Wake up... smell the flowers.

They have not changed it because every planet already had a faction story arc. They removed the class arc and left the faction Arc

forgive me if this has been said already, but isnt the answer to all the questions recently "not at the moment"?

Cross server queues? not at the moment
Class stories? not at the moment
Anything that would make this game better in the slightest? not at the moment