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Devs at the latest cantina: Class Story, not at the moment...

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Darth_Wicked
03.25.2014 , 10:04 AM | #81
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Perhaps a flaw in everyone's character?
I strive not to speak for others.

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ZionHalcyon
03.25.2014 , 10:07 AM | #82
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Are you opposed to story content(speaking of the smaller non-expansion content here) being delivered in the form of soloable dailies? Although most daily zones have hardly any story worth speaking of, I thought Oricon was pretty good.
I am not entirely opposed to it, but that would mean more daily areas released on a semi-regular basis which I don't see as entirely sustainable. Oricon was ok, but a bit on the short side. I might feel better about it had Czerka had more story other than an intro and outro, as it would indicate a better story pattern.

That's my fear in advocating dailies as stories - Czerka wasn't story other than the beginning and the end, and my fear is more dailies will end up like Czerka than Oricon.

The thing of it is, there is no real pattern of behavior for us to judge off of other than what was already released, and what was already released has been all over the damn place. It makes it hard to get a feel for what the Bioware current design philosophy is as far as stories go, because the only consistent thing is Flashpoints and Operations.

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ikinai
03.25.2014 , 10:07 AM | #83
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Hypocrisy is not a mistake. It's a flaw in one's character.
So is stalking, and nitpicking, and kibitzing. But, I don't hold it against people, they are after all only human.
I'll tell you what, then. Why don't you call me some time when you have no class?
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TUXs
03.25.2014 , 10:07 AM | #84
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Perhaps a flaw in everyone's character?
I'm certain we can all be hypocritical at times, telling someone not to do something you did (like smoking for example) is hypocrisy, yet it could also be a warning to avoid mistakes you've learned from.

When someone calls out someone in their opening statement for using a WORD and then goes on for 2 more paragraphs to use the SAME word in the SAME way, it becomes something more.
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Darth_Wicked
03.25.2014 , 10:09 AM | #85
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I'm certain we can all be hypocritical at times, telling someone not to do something you did (like smoking for example) is hypocrisy, yet it could also be a warning to avoid mistakes you've learned from.

When someone calls out someone in their opening statement for using a WORD and then goes on for 2 more paragraphs to use the SAME word in the SAME way, it becomes something more.
I believe the term you're looking for is "Megalomania".

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Vandicus
03.25.2014 , 10:10 AM | #86
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I am not entirely opposed to it, but that would mean more daily areas released on a semi-regular basis which I don't see as entirely sustainable. Oricon was ok, but a bit on the short side. I might feel better about it had Czerka had more story other than an intro and outro, as it would indicate a better story pattern.

That's my fear in advocating dailies as stories - Czerka wasn't story other than the beginning and the end, and my fear is more dailies will end up like Czerka than Oricon.

The thing of it is, there is no real pattern of behavior for us to judge off of other than what was already released, and what was already released has been all over the damn place. It makes it hard to get a feel for what the Bioware current design philosophy is as far as stories go, because the only consistent thing is Flashpoints and Operations.
It'd be nice if they explained their design philosophy regarding how we're to receive future story content.
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ImmortalLowlife
03.25.2014 , 10:10 AM | #87
I like to think of this game as an all you can eat buffet. The food is GREAT, but after you finish your 1st plate (1-50 class stories) you're only allowed to eat liver & onions (Planetary quest) because that's easier to make. How long would any Buffet with a policy like this last? Not very long....yet that's essentially what BW/ EA are doing. They're saying "we don't care what you say you want (housing, guild ships, legacy banks) It's too difficult...this is what we're doing and that's that". Then when they start hemorrhaging subs it's "wait....look you said you wanted (housing, guild ships, legacy banks) Well here it is! Please stay/come back! PvP players begged for y'all to implement things to the game that would make it more enjoyable to them. You didn't listen or made excuses as to why it couldn't be done. And when they left in droves and turned the PvP servers into ghost towns, NOW you start paying attention and doing things to win them back. Now you're facing the same situation again with the players who for 2 years have been begging for more class specific stories. Are you REALLY gonna make THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE AGAIN?

A LOT OF US WANT MORE CLASS SPECIFIC STORIES!
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TUXs
03.25.2014 , 10:11 AM | #88
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I believe the term you're looking for "Megalomania".
It most certainty could be.
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ikinai
03.25.2014 , 10:11 AM | #89
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It'd be nice if they explained their design philosophy regarding how we're to receive future story content.
I would like to see something on that. I think it might ease some fears, and others it might heighten anxiety, but it would be good to know either way.
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DarthTHC
03.25.2014 , 10:13 AM | #90
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It'd be nice if they explained their design philosophy regarding how we're to receive future story content.
It'd be nice to see that if they have changed it. Otherwise can't we expect them to repeat what they've done? Makeb, Oricon, Dread Fortress & Palace...