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Sooo...Traditional Jedi Robes?

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Sooo...Traditional Jedi Robes?

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Divona
03.25.2014 , 04:28 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Toweleeeie View Post
You clearly haven't read any of the posted complaints...
I know exactly what people complain about. I have been here since beta. If you think Bioware will make copy/paste of Obi-Wan's robe or Anakin robe then im afraid thats not going to happen. It has been asked countless times.

If bioware really wanted they would have added long ago "classic movie iconic" robes.
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Alec_Fortescue
03.25.2014 , 04:48 AM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Divona View Post
I know exactly what people complain about. I have been here since beta. If you think Bioware will make copy/paste of Obi-Wan's robe or Anakin robe then im afraid thats not going to happen. It has been asked countless times.

If bioware really wanted they would have added long ago "classic movie iconic" robes.
Doesn't have to be a copy of Anakin's or Obi-Wan's, stuff from KotOR 2 would totally do. Stuff from the timeline videos, too.

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OddballEasyEight
03.25.2014 , 05:15 AM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Lovethebeard View Post
Technology changes as far as trooper and bounty hunter gear goes, so yes there is no real 'traditional' look for either classes. As for Jedi; believe what you want but they have had a similar look throughout their thousands of years. You may think we are nitpicking and so to speak, we actually are but having the right Jedi look is important to us, just like voice modulation on helmets is important to you.

My Jedi doesn't equip a helmet so I couldn't care less about missing voice modulations on them. If I had to guess you don't run a Jedi as your main, so you couldn't give two hoots about the right Jedi garments. So why is this thread now so important for you to chime in and take a stab at us whenever you get a chance? I don't understand what you are trying to do.

That's like me coming into a thread about the "Lack of Voice Modulations on Helmets" and telling people that they are just nit picking and its not that important. It would be quite insulting because its important to some people.

I have nothing against you and your opinions are respected but it looks like you just hate us now.
I have provided countless pictures showing that jedi didn't wear those "traditional" robes in the old republic times (except for a short period around the time of KotOR, but I'd attribute that to the publishers of the game pushing for a look more in line of the movies.).

Oh and I hope you know that people do exactly what you described inthe "lack of voice modules for helmets" threads.
And it's their perogative to do so.

I don't hate anyone (ok, there might be some that irk me, but not in this thread), I just dislike the justification of including "what you want" with some contrived notion of it being "traditional" when it's clearly not for this time.
I suggest you read the Tales of the Jedi comics (that end a mere 30 years before KotOR takes place) and the Knights of the Old Republic comics (that take place just before KotOR) and look at how jedi dress.
And you can check out the Knight Errand comics series too since it takes place 2000 years or so after the game, and there still is a distinct lack of "traditional" jedi robes.
I can guarantee that the so-called "traditional" robes are in a vast minority during this time.
In fact, it was only after the Ruusan Reformation that the jedi switched to that look uniformally since they were no longer to be involved in warfare.

Does that mean they shouldn't be inluded in the game?
No.
But demanding them because "that's how jedi should look" is very wrong.
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OddballEasyEight
03.25.2014 , 05:20 AM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_riches View Post
I have heard the argument against "traditional robes" being made due to the time gap between this game and the SW we all know, however I cannot accept that answer since traditional looking robes were about for KOTOR 2.

Plus if you think about it the majority of the trooper armour models in the game are extremly similar to those used by the clones during the clone wars, so perhaps there comes a stage where "fashion" just halts in the SW universe.
Well as far as I know, nobody is demanding that they shouldn't be put in the game. My complaints are merely that people are demanding them because of some contrived justification of them being "traditional" despite them not being so at this time. KotOR and KotOR 2 are actually oddities when it comes to this time period when it comes to jedi outfits and I suspect that has more to do with marketing than anything else.

As for the trooper armour being "similar", I've brought up that point too.
Yes they are similar.
Just like the jedi robes that are in the game are similar to the ones in the movies.
The differences are about the same.
But people are nitpicking on the robes because they want to look exactly like the jedi do in the movies/kotor.
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Toweleeeie
03.25.2014 , 06:22 AM | #195
If I go into you're voice modulation thread and support it will you shut the F up here? All we want is real robes with sleeves and a belt on the inside to allow the robe to flow and maybe even an animation that takes the robe off and you're left with just a komoto on ready to fight. You know like every Star Wars movie ever?

Pleas just leave and stop trying to poop on our dreams to get your jollys off.
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OddballEasyEight
03.25.2014 , 06:38 AM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by Toweleeeie View Post
If I go into you're voice modulation thread and support it will you shut the F up here? All we want is real robes with sleeves and a belt on the inside to allow the robe to flow and maybe even an animation that takes the robe off and you're left with just a komoto on ready to fight. You know like every Star Wars movie ever?

Pleas just leave and stop trying to poop on our dreams to get your jollys off.
Not really.
"real" robes btw? So a robe with short sleeves is not a real robe?
Also, please don't say stuff like "You know like every Star Wars movie ever?" since it's really not helping your cause.(since, you know, "every star wars movie ever" takes place more than 3000 years in the future, thus not proving jack for this game.)

I don't mind if they include the type of robes people are asking for here, what I do mind is the justification of said inclusion based on a sense that "all jedi dress like that" when that is clearly not true.
And furthermore the bashing of the designs in-game as being "not jedi" and BioWare as being "artistically challenged" because they didn't make carbon copies of the movie robes is just rank behaviour.
Yes, not all of the posters here have behaved like that, but overall that is the general feel of these threads.

So how about you just simmer down a bit and stop being so bloody defensive.
Ask for the movie style robes, fine.
Just don't demand them and try to justify it by saying that's how they always looked, when that is clearly not the case.
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Alec_Fortescue
03.25.2014 , 07:14 AM | #197
In the Old Republic era there was certainly greater variety in Jedi clothing but this does not mean the Jedi didn't wear more traditional outfits as well. Dude, what's your problem? Having them in wouldn't hurt the game at all. I am not going into the threads like "we want voice modulation in helmets" or even the nasty skimpy stuff and put massive amounts of posts of such nature: "I don't care. I ain't gonna use it so I don't want it in the game for others 'cuz I don't need/want it."

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OddballEasyEight
03.25.2014 , 07:26 AM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by Alec_Fortescue View Post
In the Old Republic era there was certainly greater variety in Jedi clothing but this does not mean the Jedi didn't wear more traditional outfits as well. Dude, what's your problem? Having them in wouldn't hurt the game at all. I am not going into the threads like "we want voice modulation in helmets" or even the nasty skimpy stuff and put massive amounts of posts of such nature: "I don't care. I ain't gonna use it so I don't want it in the game for others 'cuz I don't need/want it."
You guys are so focused on getting them in-game that you can't even see that I am not saying that they shouldn't.
The ONLY thing I am complaining against in these threads is the entitlement.
You are claiming that they have to put them in because they are traditional jedi robes worn by all jedi and that any jedi not wearing them is just an exception.
But in this era (the old republic era, which stretches over far more than just KotOR and SW:TOR mind you), it was actually the other way around. By far, most jedi wore robes that are different from the ones in the movies and while KotOR is the exception, the other publishings of this era clearly shows the overabundance of different robes used by jedi in the old republic era.

I don't mind including the robes in the game.
I do mind the way people are demanding it, as if it was the only way a jedi could ever look and BioWare is ruining their game because it isn't included.
And that is completely wrong. Jedi did not wear the movie-style robes as a rule in this era. Some did, but most didn't.
So claiming that bioware did it wrong because of the short sleeves, the belt and the shirt is just BS.

Oh and what is this sudden attention to the thread about missing voice modulation?
It's about a bug, not an aesthetic decision on biowares part. There are helmets that should have voice modulation, but doesn't. It has nothing to do with not looking or sounding right (There are plenty of helmets that "sound wrong" but that thread isn't about that, it's about the helmets that should have voice modulation but doesn't have it)
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Rhalius
03.25.2014 , 07:32 AM | #199
I'd be happy already if they would give us more new armor models in cartell packs instead of cheap reskins. We can reskin all we want with dyes anyways.
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OddballEasyEight
03.25.2014 , 07:37 AM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhalius View Post
I'd be happy already if they would give us more new armor models in cartell packs instead of cheap reskins. We can reskin all we want with dyes anyways.
The point of the reskins in the cartel packs is that they are adaptive and all classes can wear them, whereas most of the stuff already in-game is restricted by armour class and often faction and player class too.
Besides, on alot of the reskins it actually changes the patterns which makes a big difference to some of us.
(not to mention that alot of them have minor changes to their models which is enough sometimes to warrant using one over the other)
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