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Dual Spec. Still want it.


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Drudenfusz
03.24.2014 , 09:23 AM | #241
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
Field respecc is the best kind of multispecc imo
Not in mine, it is the best we have, but it is a clumsy compared to how dual- or multispecs work in other games.
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Phyltr
03.24.2014 , 10:12 AM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
Not in mine, it is the best we have, but it is a clumsy compared to how dual- or multispecs work in other games.
Heh, its kind of like saying "you have all of the outdoors to poop in, why would you want indoor plumbing?!".

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Grymmjow
03.24.2014 , 09:32 PM | #243
/signed give me dual spec

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Never_Hesitate
03.25.2014 , 01:42 AM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by Phyltr View Post
Heh, its kind of like saying "you have all of the outdoors to poop in, why would you want indoor plumbing?!".
No, it's like saying you have this kind of indoor pluming, why would you want that kind of indoor pluming, which isn't better than the one you have, just different
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fire-breath
03.25.2014 , 02:53 AM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by Phyltr View Post
You're being disingenuous. "...all you will have to do is switch gear and talent points..." and every ability needs moved, unless you're a terrible clicker. Yes, I know how to make multiple UI configurations but I cannot save it such that abilities switch when I change the UI layout. My keybindings remain the same and when switching from heals to DPS or vice versa your suggestion falls flat and is not a true solution to the problem.
Well yes ..... 4k dps on the horror in NiM back when it was new must be a sign that clickers are terrible. I couldn't agree more with you sir. Also, and I hate to bring you this news .... with a 1,5 second global cooldown a clicker isn't a bad thing.

Anyways. I havent got an issue with respeccing AT ALL. I'm respeccing between sharshooter and saboteur in a matter of seconds. Dirty fighting takes a bit longer since it has more skills to move.

On my sage and mando healer I allready am prepared for my offspec by having a separated quickbar with my offdps skills which i can simply drag 1 bar down to swap them with offhealing. Just adept ;-)

If they really bring it, nice. If not than not. I rather want housing, new content, new races, ect ...
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Phyltr
03.25.2014 , 06:40 AM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
No, it's like saying you have this kind of indoor pluming, why would you want that kind of indoor pluming, which isn't better than the one you have, just different
What you're saying is entirely qualitative. I say that a system that saves specs and action bar layouts is better. Your opinion isn't more valid than mine so stop trying to pass it off as if your opinion is the right one. Don't suppose to tell me what is better for me.

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Never_Hesitate
03.25.2014 , 06:56 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Phyltr View Post
What you're saying is entirely qualitative. I say that a system that saves specs and action bar layouts is better. Your opinion isn't more valid than mine so stop trying to pass it off as if your opinion is the right one. Don't suppose to tell me what is better for me.
Where have I ever said that?

I just said dual spec isn't inherently better than field respec and your whole post could be applied to you, as you're trying to tell me that my opinion isn't as valid as yours

You made the comparison between field respec and dual spec as if the dual spec was more advanced.
I made the comparison as if they are on the same level but different types.

Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
which isn't better than the one you have, just different
So hypocrite much?
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Phyltr
03.25.2014 , 07:17 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
Where have I ever said that?

I just said dual spec isn't inherently better than field respec and your whole post could be applied to you, as you're trying to tell me that my opinion isn't as valid as yours

You made the comparison between field respec and dual spec as if the dual spec was more advanced.
I made the comparison as if they are on the same level but different types.



So hypocrite much?
You specifically say that dual-spec isn't better, when that is clearly a qualitative statement and not quantitative. Dual-spec is positively better for me, I don't like field respec at all and it is definitely worse for me, but I don't believe (other than my joke about pooping) I've ever intimated that it is anything other than my opinion.

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Never_Hesitate
03.25.2014 , 07:32 AM | #249
Quote: Originally Posted by Phyltr View Post
You specifically say that dual-spec isn't better, when that is clearly a qualitative statement and not quantitative. Dual-spec is positively better for me, I don't like field respec at all and it is definitely worse for me, but I don't believe (other than my joke about pooping) I've ever intimated that it is anything other than my opinion.
So let me get this straight:
When you say "dual spec is better than field respec" it's your opinion but when I say "field respec is at least on the same level as dual spec" it's something more than my opinion?
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Phyltr
03.25.2014 , 07:44 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
So let me get this straight:
When you say "dual spec is better than field respec" it's your opinion but when I say "field respec is at least on the same level as dual spec" it's something more than my opinion?
When have I made that as a quantitative statement? I've looked through every page of this thread and I don't see myself every making that statement. I've always stated what my position on the topic is. You are attempting to say that they are quantitatively on the same level, which is simply not true. You never say "for me....I feel that they are on the same level" you say that for everyone that plays SWTOR that dual-spec isn't any better than field respec which is just isn't true.

Edit: You know what? I've been thinking about it and if the system is implemented with field respec as is, just with added slots for remembered specs (including action bar layouts) added, I will argue 100% that it is quantitatively better. How could you possibly argue that the system you seem to like is worse off with this added feature?