Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Aurbere

03.22.2014 , 08:45 PM \| #491	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Silenceo Mostly I think he was referring to the droids that are already on board the Executor, 10,000 of them i think it was. It isn't always blaster bolts or light sabers that end up killing people, sometimes it little things such as systems malfunctioning or an airlock opening at an unlucky time. That's only going to work once, and I find it unlikely that any major damage will be caused by the time people see suspicious stuff going on. Remember that similar events (hacking) happened during the Clone Wars.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

Silenceo

03.22.2014 , 09:01 PM \| #492	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere That's only going to work once, and I find it unlikely that any major damage will be caused by the time people see suspicious stuff going on. Remember that similar events (hacking) happened during the Clone Wars. True, but most other vessels do not have an automated transportation system that runs the entire length of the vessel. It doesn't have to be a heavy casualty incident, merely one that buys the DS time when time is most needed. Such as causing the hyper drive to fail to activate stranding the key to the AE's victory, out in space trying to fix their hyperdrive while their worlds are being ravaged by droids and pirates. It really depends on where the droids are located in the ship, though they are unlikely to be able to cause any failure that would outright perminantly damage or disable the Executor. But there are a lot of mechanical things that they could play with in such a vessel. Perhaps they could do something such as cause alarms to go off in some sections of the ship as if they had intruders, or to deactivate certain systems. However unlikely, they could play cat and mouse with the crew making them think that there are intruders on the ship trying to sabotage it not even aware that it is their innocent little service droids. After all, do any of the AE know that the DS can do such things to their droids? Even if so one small malfunction is a long way off from scrap every last droid on this gigantic vessel that depends on droids in some sections. I mean, I understand this is Kenobi and not Skywalker, but there was an entire arc that they didn't know they had a droid traitor in the Clone Wars that while wasn't exactly deadly, was heavily hampering to their missions. Even so, if they did go through the hassle of replacing every droid or wiping all of them, what is stopping HK from simply doing it again? Question: Is it possible that HK-01 could be equipped with a stealth field generator like the Terror units use so that he may remain on board the Executor to cause havoc while evading confrontation?
"What I unveil today will mark a new era for the Empire. We will be able to decimate the Rebels just as we did the Jedi Knights. At last the Emperor's war will be filled only with the glory and beauty of decisive victory."―Rom Mohc Never force a droid to think without numbers...

Warren-Stride

03.22.2014 , 10:35 PM \| #493	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Silenceo Question: Is it possible that HK-01 could be equipped with a stealth field generator like the Terror units use so that he may remain on board the Executor to cause havoc while evading confrontation? HK-01 doesn't have to be personally present in order to control the droids. The AE has no idea HK-01 exists. However, HK-01, Guri, and PROXY could all be outfitted with Exchange Shadowcaster stealth field belts, supplied by the Exchange.
~~ AiR ~~ What are you more afraid of? A weapon that could destroy you? Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

Silenceo

03.22.2014 , 11:22 PM \| #494	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride HK-01 doesn't have to be personally present in order to control the droids. The AE has no idea HK-01 exists. However, HK-01, Guri, and PROXY could all be outfitted with Exchange Shadowcaster stealth field belts, supplied by the Exchange. True, however if HK-01 was able to cause trouble on board while evading large fights the AE would likely suspect that he was the one causing things to go haywire. Essentially giving them something obvious to focus on while the droids that are helping run the ship are going about their...business... As an assassin droid I am sure he would have a lot of fun with a stealth field generator on such a large play ground to keep their attention on him. Though, it would be hilarious if Proxy was on board as well to help keep the ruse going. I can imagine it now... "Sir, we have cornered the Assassin droid near the prow of the vessel. Stand By." They move in to where they think HK is, then Proxy causes havoc on the other end of the ship, perhaps at the engines "That is impossible, we just had confirmed sightings of it near our aft!" HK-01 sneaks past the confused troops to cause more trouble for the crew Oh the mind games those two could play... They would surely be caught eventually, but the time they could buy the DS...That, is priceless.
"What I unveil today will mark a new era for the Empire. We will be able to decimate the Rebels just as we did the Jedi Knights. At last the Emperor's war will be filled only with the glory and beauty of decisive victory."―Rom Mohc Never force a droid to think without numbers...

StarSquirrel

03.22.2014 , 11:38 PM \| #495	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride HK-01 doesn't have to be personally present in order to control the droids. The AE has no idea HK-01 exists. However, HK-01, Guri, and PROXY could all be outfitted with Exchange Shadowcaster stealth field belts, supplied by the Exchange. I thought HK-01 couldn't control droids per-se, just override their programming and make them attack humans. Sabotaging the ship with HK-01 wouldn't be coordinated but it would be simultaneous. It would cause problems as far as droids whose purpose was to serve a function would no longer be trusted, thus draining manpower to man those stations and things on the Executor would be far less efficient. Not to mention the crew that could be blown out airlocks or hangers... However, the damage would be minimal in my opinion the droids are kept at a pretty low level of intelligence on Imperial ships so the lack of complexity of any sabotage would be extremely easy to notice and repair.
I know if you look deep into your heart- which is currently all over that tree- you'll find a way to forgive me. Aww, geez you look like a puppy! A blonde, eviscerated puppy! -Alucard

Beniboybling

03.23.2014 , 06:41 AM \| #496	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by StarSquirrel I thought HK-01 couldn't control droids per-se, just override their programming and make them attack humans. Sabotaging the ship with HK-01 wouldn't be coordinated but it would be simultaneous. It would cause problems as far as droids whose purpose was to serve a function would no longer be trusted, thus draining manpower to man those stations and things on the Executor would be far less efficient. Not to mention the crew that could be blown out airlocks or hangers... However, the damage would be minimal in my opinion the droids are kept at a pretty low level of intelligence on Imperial ships so the lack of complexity of any sabotage would be extremely easy to notice and repair. Given what his Wookiee page says, I think he could control them. And what's up with the red? Lol.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Aurbere

03.23.2014 , 08:36 AM \| #497	Quote
Would someone like to explain how HK, PROXY, and all of these other DS units got on the Executor? They didn't just spawn there. No one possesses teleportation tech. So what's the deal?
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

Beniboybling

03.23.2014 , 08:45 AM \| #498	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere Would someone like to explain how HK, PROXY, and all of these other DS units got on the Executor? They didn't just spawn there. No one possesses teleportation tech. So what's the deal? As I have already said, its possible they could use the droids pool on board to deactivate the shields, allowing drop pods to infiltrate the vessel. And I assume at some point the Executor will go on the offensive. In fact it will probably go on the offensive by itself so they don't have to divide the fleet.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Aurbere

03.23.2014 , 09:10 AM \| #499	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling As I have already said, its possible they could use the droids pool on board to deactivate the shields, allowing drop pods to infiltrate the vessel. And I assume at some point the Executor will go on the offensive. In fact it will probably go on the offensive by itself so they don't have to divide the fleet. About those drop pods, who's to say they don't get blown away by the point defense cannons or fighter wings? And why wouldn't lockdowns engage if the drop pods do get through? And how would no one notice the droids doing things (there are engineers on board)?
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

Canino

03.23.2014 , 09:15 AM \| #500	Quote
OK. I finally have had time to create this post. Initiate Order 66. NOTE: For the sake not confusing anyone, Order 66 and hacking the droids of the AE are separate in this post. However, in the Kaggath, they would coincide in order to create optimum results. Alright. With that out of the way, lets begin. Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere Step 1: Get visual contact with the Clones. Step 2: Realize that they are Clones. Step 3: Think that their cloners made contingency plans or engineered weaknesses into them. Step 4: Find out who cloned them. Step 5: Get the information out of the Kaminoans. The issue is that most of those steps are leaps in logic. Get Visual Contact This is the easiest issue to solve. As soon as the Kaggath begins, spying will also begin. the AE will undoubtedly spy on the DS, and the DS will spy on the AE. And, with Exchange cells on AE worlds, visual, audio, and even tech readouts (the Exchange are weapons traffickers and smugglers- they know tech) of clones will flow steadily to the DS. Realize they are clones Now, this would be a problem if G0-T0 wasn't a computer. However, he is. If he himself (using his expansive database) cannot figure out that the AE is utilizing clones, then he will do what other AI do- search. Look at Siri. If the answer she needs isn't in her database, she searches the web. G0-T0 would utilize the same technique. He would use the databases of his command structure, the holonet, and the top officials on his planets. And, being a droid, this could be done extremely fast. If Guri or PROXY cannot identify the clones, the Kaminoans would. And from there, G0-T0 has everything he needs, including Order 66. However, lets assume he has to inquire to learn about Order 66.Now what? Now What? Being a planning droid, G0-T0 would undoubtedly use contingency plans. It would be absurd if you disagree on that point. He understands how essential they are to be efficient, and that they have other uses. G0-T0 is a crime lord of one of the largest gangs in the galaxy. He knows gangs fight. He knows of gang wars. He knows that even gangs have plan B's. It would be foolish to think that armies would not either. Also, as I have mentioned before, G0-T0 knows just how important Jedi are. He placed a bounty on them just so he could meet them! He needed one to help him rebuild the Republic, knowing that only a Jedi could do that. G0-T0 would know that in order to defeat the AE (or the Republic) he would need to rebuild. And if Jedi are on their side, he needs to delete them. Finally, G0-T0 loves physiology, and understands it well. He knows how important fear is (his body was created for that exact purpose) and knew that other would also underestimate a droid ruler. So what did he do? He made himself "human". He is a logical yet creative being. Add all of that up, and if the Kaminoans don't tell G0-T0 of Order 66, he would ask about it. And they would tell him. There is no reason they wouldn't, and even if they withheld it, he would know, and find a way around that. Not as long as I originally intended, but it will do. I can always make it longer in a defense post
STATEMENT: I'm just a simple assassin...I mean bodyguard, master. You have nothing to fear. ---------

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