Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Beniboybling

03.22.2014 , 07:44 PM \| #481	Quote
I should also note that end-game scenarios are also welcome.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

ShadowMudkip

03.22.2014 , 07:46 PM \| #482	Quote
With their plethora of underworld capabilities, the DS is going to know if the Executor moves its location. Because of the size of the DS navy, the DS will be capable of playing a much larger game than the AE ever could. The DS can attack more place with more ships than the AE. As Silenceo stated, its likely GO-TO will have the DS pull the Executor out of Coruscant using a naval strike on Anaxes or another world. From there the DS can strike any other planet and most likely win because the Executor is slowed down. Additionally, Guri or Proxy could sneak aboard the Executor and ruin a part or many parts of it's important systems. The Executor is so large, with so many people going on and off the ship, that it wouldn't be to difficult for an assassin to hide on a supply ship.
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Selenial

03.22.2014 , 07:53 PM \| #483	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowMudkip With their plethora of underworld capabilities, the DS is going to know if the Executor moves its location. Because of the size of the DS navy, the DS will be capable of playing a much larger game than the AE ever could. The DS can attack more place with more ships than the AE. As Silenceo stated, its likely GO-TO will have the DS pull the Executor out of Coruscant using a naval strike on Anaxes or another world. From there the DS can strike any other planet and most likely win because the Executor is slowed down. Additionally, Guri or Proxy could sneak aboard the Executor and ruin a part or many parts of it's important systems. The Executor is so large, with so many people going on and off the ship, that it wouldn't be to difficult for an assassin to hide on a supply ship. One does not simply infiltrate the executor. It was designed to not be sabotagable, you could take 2 shield generators down and it'd still take on over half of the DS Navy... That, and even without the Executor, the AE Navy is more than enough to turn the DS Navy around. Especially with their tacticians. I'm not sure why any of you think that G0-T0 could outsmart, or outgun, Kenobi and Koon here.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Silenceo

03.22.2014 , 07:59 PM \| #484	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial One does not simply infiltrate the executor. It was designed to not be sabotagable, you could take 2 shield generators down and it'd still take on over half of the DS Navy... That, and even without the Executor, the AE Navy is more than enough to turn the DS Navy around. Especially with their tacticians. I'm not sure why any of you think that G0-T0 could outsmart, or outgun, Kenobi and Koon here. No amount of smarts will allow forces so outnumbered to win without some of the greatest minds in the galaxy. If the DS was to do the trick with luring the Executor away to Anaxes and focused on Kuat before moving onto Corellia, first, how do we know both or even one of those locations will have either of those commanders present instead of sticking near the Executor or Mothma? Second, it would be nearly 20-1 odds in favor of the DS if not greater. Without the Executor they are very much out gunned, out numbered, and inevitably dead. Even if Koon or Kenobi was there they are unlikely to be good enough tacticians to be able to turn that sort of tide easily. They have retreated from droid fleets before in less staggering odds, it does not seem that large of a leap to assume that yes their tactics are better 1-1 firepower wise against droids due to their tactics, they do not make up for beyond 3-1 odds. They are great leaders, but they are no Thrawns. Edit: And on the outsmarting part, yes GO-TO can EASILY outsmart almost anyone else in this Kaggath when it comes to large scale pictures and maneuvering. It is pretty much his core purpose. In small scale things such as battles, yes, GO-TO loses easily tactics wise to most other commanders. Macro management though is where he beats out his competition. "Pazaak bores me. I often suspect my opponent of cheating. I prefer predictable games, such as galactic economics." ―G0-T0
"What I unveil today will mark a new era for the Empire. We will be able to decimate the Rebels just as we did the Jedi Knights. At last the Emperor's war will be filled only with the glory and beauty of decisive victory."―Rom Mohc Never force a droid to think without numbers...

Beniboybling

03.22.2014 , 08:00 PM \| #485	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial One does not simply infiltrate the executor. It was designed to not be sabotagable, you could take 2 shield generators down and it'd still take on over half of the DS Navy... That, and even without the Executor, the AE Navy is more than enough to turn the DS Navy around. Especially with their tacticians. I'm not sure why any of you think that G0-T0 could outsmart, or outgun, Kenobi and Koon here. I think the only real thing the Supremacy could do to the Executor is sabotage the engines and effectively render it immobile, for a time. If they could possibly deactivate the shields of destroy the shield generator, and then gain assistance from boarding parties they could momentarily seize the bridge and direct into a celestial body. But that would be difficult, and a massive operation. However I think its worth considering. Noting that the sabotage would of course be initially carried out by the droids on board.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

ShadowMudkip

03.22.2014 , 08:01 PM \| #486	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial One does not simply infiltrate the executor. It was designed to not be sabotagable, you could take 2 shield generators down and it'd still take on over half of the DS Navy... That, and even without the Executor, the AE Navy is more than enough to turn the DS Navy around. Especially with their tacticians. I'm not sure why any of you think that G0-T0 could outsmart, or outgun, Kenobi and Koon here. But the Executor is so BIG that it would be near impossible to track all incoming and outgoing traffic. Then once someone is inside, it would be impossible to find them until they broke something.
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ShadowMudkip

03.22.2014 , 08:06 PM \| #487	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling I think the only real thing the Supremacy could do to the Executor is sabotage the engines and effectively render it immobile, for a time. If they could possibly deactivate the shields of destroy the shield generator, and then gain assistance from boarding parties they could momentarily seize the bridge and direct into a celestial body. But that would be difficult, and a massive operation. However I think its worth considering. Noting that the sabotage would of course be initially carried out by the droids on board. The initial mayhem would be caused by HK hacking the droids, but in that chaos, Guri could go deeper and further damage the Executor's systems. Even if the only things damaged are the targeting computers, it could wreck havoc on the Executor being able to function properly.
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Selenial

03.22.2014 , 08:29 PM \| #488	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling I think the only real thing the Supremacy could do to the Executor is sabotage the engines and effectively render it immobile, for a time. If they could possibly deactivate the shields of destroy the shield generator, and then gain assistance from boarding parties they could momentarily seize the bridge and direct into a celestial body. But that would be difficult, and a massive operation. However I think its worth considering. Noting that the sabotage would of course be initially carried out by the droids on board. Droids, unlike bounty hunters, are easy to find because you can scan for them. So droids can't take out more than one thing. And biologicals can be sensed by Koon, so none of them either. Simply not a possibility.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Aurbere

03.22.2014 , 08:39 PM \| #489	Quote
OK, boarding parties, great. Where are they coming from? By what means are they getting on the Executor? Who in the AE is too stupid to not see them coming? Boatloads of flaws, I see. But if we are going with final arguments, expect mine tomorrow. It's late here.
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Silenceo

03.22.2014 , 08:43 PM \| #490	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere OK, boarding parties, great. Where are they coming from? By what means are they getting on the Executor? Who in the AE is too stupid to not see them coming? Boatloads of flaws, I see. But if we are going with final arguments, expect mine tomorrow. It's late here. Mostly I think he was referring to the droids that are already on board the Executor, 10,000 of them i think it was. It isn't always blaster bolts or light sabers that end up killing people, sometimes it little things such as systems malfunctioning or an airlock opening at an unlucky time.
"What I unveil today will mark a new era for the Empire. We will be able to decimate the Rebels just as we did the Jedi Knights. At last the Emperor's war will be filled only with the glory and beauty of decisive victory."―Rom Mohc Never force a droid to think without numbers...

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