Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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psandak

03.17.2014 , 02:04 PM \| #371	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by dbears I think it's funny how everyone that is against this new tier has 1 of 2 reasons that actually conflict with each other. On 1 side we've got the people saying it's a pointless grind because of the negligible stat increase on a new tier. On the other side we've got people saying it's a pain in the *** to grind a new tier because they don't want to get "2 shotted" by the people that have the new tier. Apparently a negligible stat increase will allow people to 2 shot others that don't have the new tier. Which side is right? There is a third group, related to but not precisely the same as #1: the I don't want to grind multiple characters again. And as to those who claim the time between sets is too short: it's been six months people. 2.4 and Oberan hit in early OCTOBER, and we are getting a new set of gear in early APRIL. And to those who want new gear with new content: we are getting a new huttball map. What more "content" do you want than a new map? Lastly, new PvP gear appears to coincide with new PvE gear. They are only keeping things "even."
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Foambreaker

03.17.2014 , 03:47 PM \| #372	Quote
#4 It is the symptom of a bad idea: Self inflicted gear imbalance It is hard enough to balance an MMO for PvP, adding intentional gear imbalance in the form of new sets with new stats is just plain dumb, especially in light of Bolster. If it were me gear would not matter at all except that something would be required in every slot Bolster to level "60", give away cars and speeders for rewards...

Jherad

03.17.2014 , 04:03 PM \| #373	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by dbears I think it's funny how everyone that is against this new tier has 1 of 2 reasons that actually conflict with each other. On 1 side we've got the people saying it's a pointless grind because of the negligible stat increase on a new tier. On the other side we've got people saying it's a pain in the * to grind a new tier because they don't want to get "2 shotted" by the people that have the new tier. Apparently a negligible stat increase will allow people to 2 shot others that don't have the new tier. Which side is right? To a degree, exaggeration aside, both sides are right. The stat differences aren't huge, but they are significant enough to give an edge - so advancement, right? Wrong. If everyone gets the gear - which all competitive PvPers will feel they are forced to do, then essentially all the new stats cancel each other out. Nothing** will have changed. Except that everyone will have spent cash upgrading their gear. Heck, I probably have enough comms banked to buy the complete new set the moment 2.7 drops - It's not 'work' that bothers me. It's just that it is UTTERLY pointless. No 'upside' to it at all, no new shiny armor models, nothing. Completely pointless.
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psandak

03.17.2014 , 06:05 PM \| #374	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jherad To a degree, exaggeration aside, both sides are right. The stat differences aren't huge, but they are significant enough to give an edge - so advancement, right? Wrong. If everyone gets the gear - which all competitive PvPers will feel they are forced to do, then essentially all the new stats cancel each other out. *Nothing* will have changed. Except that everyone will have spent cash upgrading their gear. Heck, I probably have enough comms banked to buy the complete new set the moment 2.7 drops - It's not 'work' that bothers me. It's just that it is UTTERLY pointless. No 'upside' to it at all, no new shiny armor models, nothing. Completely pointless. It keeps the hamster wheel going. Be honest, if there was no "carrot" would you really play forever?
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Xandermpls

03.17.2014 , 07:39 PM \| #375	Quote
/signed Founder here for the game I play and am subscribed since relaunch. I do not want new sets of pvp gear going in with greater stats. I would think it would be neat to have cosmetic or perhaps consumables that could be used in pvp matches.
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Jherad

03.17.2014 , 07:42 PM \| #376	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak Be honest, if there was no "carrot" would you really play forever? There IS no carrot. That's the whole problem with this change. NO CARROT. Seriously, this new tier is barely one step away from just having players deposit credits in a trashcan every few months and going about their business. It doesn't allow you to do anything new, it doesn't LOOK any better, it doesn't ... anything.
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Joesixxpack

03.17.2014 , 08:55 PM \| #377	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak It keeps the hamster wheel going. Be honest, if there was no "carrot" would you really play forever? I don't consider it a carrot as much as lazy *** development.

XXcaesar

03.17.2014 , 09:52 PM \| #378	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaerah Reality check: I PvPed totally happily in Warhammer where past gear cap there was... nothing. And I could focus in learning to play instead of learning to grind more. I PvPed totally happy in Guild Wars 2 and there the PvP gear grind is exactly what it should be: zero. You get PvP gear directly handed to you and you just focus on what's fun: PvP. i love this players finally getting the simple concept gear should be played with not for skill is skill simple fact no need to grind any gear play for fun wow what a crazy thought

TezMoney

03.17.2014 , 09:54 PM \| #379	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Raynezazki The sad thing is why can't the gear wait til significant content hits? I don't get it Something to do during pre-season 2.
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Smuglebunny

03.18.2014 , 09:27 AM \| #380	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TezMoney Something to do during pre-season 2. As said before there is nothing to do. Just something forced to do. No benefit. No carrot. Just mandatory grind. Of armor that gives almost no stat advantage and looks the same. Dont tell me its raining BW...

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