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First time tanking.


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ItachiZaku
03.11.2014 , 12:14 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Master_Hitsugaya View Post
That's part of the reason why I dont tank and that is because it is much harder than any other role.


You have to know the layout of each flashpoint/op
Be able to avoid mobs( there are some crazy paths in flash points to avoid mobs
Know how to fight each boss
Know how to hold aggro well
Pulling adds and so on

Tank and healer tend to get blamed when ever there is a problem while dps almost never get blamed( dps just along for the ride)
Yep, that's why I have normally tried to two man them all with my roommate, so we can learn it - or try to run a time or two with a DPS toon so that I at least know some stuff.

This is a good resource thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...=707035&page=5
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tgokovenant
03.12.2014 , 05:40 AM | #32
I'd just like to chime in here. I've been tanking in this game for a little over a year. And before that (and also currently) I tanked in WoW with a Protection Paladin.

There are large differences in this game from a year ago. Mainly huge differences in the community. It seems the more free to play players we have, the worse the PUGs get.
It happens often that I have to coach DPS on proper order. Even at higher level flashpoints. That really shouldn't happen.
When I nicely ask people to just play their roles and let me pull, I get such responses as "Go back to WoW f**!"
Sometimes people even seem to think that it's my job to "rescue them" when they do something stupid.

The thing is, tanks in this game have unreasonably long cooldowns on taunts. honestly. 15 seconds for a single taunt? 45 seconds for AoE taunt? what the eff is that?
With such long cooldowns, you really have to play smart and have a nice rotation to hold aggro. Overzealous DPS jumping in ahead of you, or rushing ahead in rocket boots and pulling before you can even get there, makes tanking a real pain in this game sometimes.

With all that said, in my opinion, tank and heals are the only 2 worth playing. For me, playing DPS is boring.

I say, big kudos to all new players who want to pursue tanking or healing. You are certainly lords among men (and possibly women )
If you really want to become good at tanking and/or healing, I would suggest to do what I did.
Read a lot! Read all about your class...how best to gear up your toon, rotation examples, tactics, etc. This will help you more than you can possibly imagine
Play through each flashpoint at least once as DPS. Pay attention to the layout, crew skill hackable shortcuts, mod aversion routes, etc.
Do yourself the humongous favor and buy a +41 Indestructible crystal from the GTN. You can find them for as cheap as 100k credits. And if you ever roll another tank on your account, you can add it to collections for about 90cc I believe. it's worth it. Especially since you get 500cc per month for your subscription. I personally have a large assortment of +41 endurance and power crystals. If you've ever played WoW before...it's like leveling with heirlooms.

If any new subscriber would like to tank but is not sure where to begin, I have characters on both the Ebon Hawk and the Red Eclipse. I would be willing to help in any way I can. Whether you need tips, or financial help...I can help out.
on the Ebon Hawk, you can friend one of my main characters: Lek'sis or Lek'san and message me when you see me online.
on the red eclipse, friend and message either of the names in my signature.

Anyways, sorry for writing this book. I hope that this will help any new aspiring tanks.
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Halinalle
03.12.2014 , 06:10 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by tgokovenant View Post
Read a lot! Read all about your class...
Also learning the basics of other classes will help when planning the upcoming fight. Little things like CC capabilities and such.

Examples:
- Sorcerer/Sage can CC one mob for 60 secs.
- Assassin/Operative/Shadow/Scoundrel can CC targets while in stealth without entering combat.

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tgokovenant
03.12.2014 , 06:50 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
Also learning the basics of other classes will help when planning the upcoming fight. Little things like CC capabilities and such.

Examples:
- Sorcerer/Sage can CC one mob for 60 secs.
- Assassin/Operative/Shadow/Scoundrel can CC targets while in stealth without entering combat.
Very true. Just make sure that the tank pulls aggro first, before the healer goes to CC something. Otherwise your chances of losing your healer are high.
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Halinalle
03.12.2014 , 08:10 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by tgokovenant View Post
Very true. Just make sure that the tank pulls aggro first, before the healer goes to CC something. Otherwise your chances of losing your healer are high.
Yes. For example Sorcerer/Sage CC is engaging combat so they have to do their job after fight starts. Like I said, Operatives and Scoundrels can stealth CC their target. Of course it's more useful when skipping trash groups you don't want to fight.

Also one of the things you have to be careful with as tank, CC'd mob will usually attack the player who CC'd them. So be ready to grab the aggro if mob goes for healer.

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CheaterLL
03.12.2014 , 08:49 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
Also learning the basics of other classes will help when planning the upcoming fight. Little things like CC capabilities and such.

Examples:
- Sorcerer/Sage can CC one mob for 60 secs.
- Assassin/Operative/Shadow/Scoundrel can CC targets while in stealth without entering combat.
Assasin/Shadow stealth CC can not be used against droids
Sniper/Gunslinger/Marauder/Sentinel CC can only be used against droids
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AlrikFassbauer
03.25.2014 , 10:41 AM | #37
A minor necro : How do I switch guard with my Jedi Tank ?

Did Athiss a few days ago. Was interesting. I thought I'd be bad, but in the end I wasn't. It turned out to be a good training run for me (with my very first tank character, plus I normally don't play melee classes).

I think that I should do both Hammerstation and Athiss a few more times (did Athiss with a Commando who was fairly new to it as well, plus our companions, makes 4, everyone at level 21 / 20).
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Dak_fireraker
03.25.2014 , 02:04 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
A minor necro : How do I switch guard with my Jedi Tank ?

Did Athiss a few days ago. Was interesting. I thought I'd be bad, but in the end I wasn't. It turned out to be a good training run for me (with my very first tank character, plus I normally don't play melee classes).

I think that I should do both Hammerstation and Athiss a few more times (did Athiss with a Commando who was fairly new to it as well, plus our companions, makes 4, everyone at level 21 / 20).
Hi Alrik,

If i am understanding your question correctly, all you will need to do to switch guard is select another member of your group & throw the guard on that player. As long as said player is not guarding or being guarded by someone else you can switch guards as needed.
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AlixMV
03.25.2014 , 03:58 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
A minor necro : How do I switch guard with my Jedi Tank
Insead of necro'ing and adding an unrelated question when you weren't the OP, why didn't you just start a new thread? :P
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AlrikFassbauer
03.25.2014 , 04:52 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Dak_fireraker View Post
Hi Alrik,

If i am understanding your question correctly, all you will need to do to switch guard is select another member of your group & throw the guard on that player. As long as said player is not guarding or being guarded by someone else you can switch guards as needed.
Thank you, this is what I wanted to know.

Besides, I'm used to a much different forums culture, where no "thread necroing" exists.
People just add there questions fitting to what has been discussed in a thread to that thread, that's all.
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)